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06-24-2013, 06:37 AM
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Member
Name: JW
Trailer: Casita
Missouri
Posts: 58
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Rim bolt pattern?
Has anyone changed rims to a mag/aluminum wheel? Wondered if it was a ford bolt pattern etc and what would fit.
John
2004 5thwheel
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06-24-2013, 06:38 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1983 13 ft Scamp
Posts: 3,082
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4 1/2" bolt pattern
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06-24-2013, 06:51 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel
Posts: 1,861
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John
Eastern Marine in Newark De. has a good selection of aluminum trailer rims at fair prices. Thats where I get mine. They go on sale every several months at 10-15% off.
I have been told the aluminum Ranger deer hoof print wheels fit the bolt pattern but the center hole is just a little small for the hub and has to be ground out. (So I was told.) I would stick with trailers wheels with 0 offset. Also buy extra long lug nuts when you buy your aluminum wheels.
Eddie
The bolt pattern is 5 X 4.5 for 3.5K axle.
http://www.easternmarine.com/mag-alu...trailer-wheels
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06-24-2013, 07:47 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gihuff
Has anyone changed rims to a mag/aluminum wheel? Wondered if it was a ford bolt pattern etc and what would fit.
John
2004 5thwheel
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Which trailer and what tire?
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06-24-2013, 11:29 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2002 19 ft Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel
Posts: 3,640
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Look at the northern tool site for rims.
Some Auto rims will not work on trailers because of the big center part of the hub.
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06-24-2013, 07:00 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler (B1700RGH) 1979
Posts: 5,002
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Lots of trailers use alloy wheels, including Scamps.
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Originally Posted by floyd
Which trailer and what tire?
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I suspect that the rest of us are assuming a 2004 Scamp 19'... perhaps John added that detail after Floyd's post.
Yes, while Ford has used many bolt patterns, it seems that when people say "Ford pattern" they mean 5x4.5" ... although I don't know if any Fords still in production actually use this pattern. My Ford Focus and my Ford motorhome certainly don't.
Common current 5x4.5" (also called 5x114.3 mm) car/SUV/minivan wheels do not fit a typical trailer (including a Scamp) properly for three reasons: - they are larger than 13" diameter (you can go with larger tires than stock, but then need to consider what fits in the wheel well) Note on edit: despite earlier published specs, the stock Scamp size might be 14" - see later posts
- they have far too much offset
- the centre hole is too small for the protruding trailer hub
A Ford Ranger wheel usually fits, but the easiest source is wheels which are intended for trailers.
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06-24-2013, 07:02 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler (B1700RGH) 1979
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Longest
I have been told the aluminum Ranger deer hoof print wheels fit the bolt pattern but the center hole is just a little small for the hub and has to be ground out.
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I'm not familiar with specific Ranger wheels, but in general those to fit 4WD trucks tend to have a large centre hole to clear the driven front hub.
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06-24-2013, 07:03 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
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John, your Scamp... is it 13" or 14" tires?
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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06-24-2013, 07:08 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Carl
Trailer: 2013 Lil Snoozy #161 (SOLD)/2010 Tacoma
NE Oklahoma
Posts: 2,358
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gihuff
Has anyone changed rims to a mag/aluminum wheel? Wondered if it was a ford bolt pattern etc and what would fit.
John
2004 5thwheel
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Mine is a 14" 5 hole with 4 1/2" pattern = chevy wheel.
The Snoozy sits on a boat trailer.
http://lilsnoozyclub-com.webs.com/ap...toid=177875891
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06-24-2013, 07:09 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
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Yeah Carl, you have a Snoozy. John has a Scamp...
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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06-24-2013, 07:11 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler (B1700RGH) 1979
Posts: 5,002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carlkeigley
Mine is a 14" 5 hole with 4 1/2" pattern = chevy wheel.
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But the traditional Chevy pattern is 5x4.75"... this is why it's not safe to assume anything based just on car brand.
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06-24-2013, 07:15 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler (B1700RGH) 1979
Posts: 5,002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
John, your Scamp... is it 13" or 14" tires?
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The Scamp specs recently said 13", but currently (just after a website update) say 14". 14" makes a lot more sense for a 3500 pound axle capacity... was 13" just a website error? Scamp 19' experts: what tire size should this trailer have?
I note that among readily available ST tire sizes and load ranges, an ST205/75x14 LR-C ("x" can be "D" or "R") is the minimum tire to meet the 3500 pound axle rating
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Information is good. Lack of information is not so good, but misinformation is much worse. Check facts, and apply common sense liberally.
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06-24-2013, 07:17 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Carl
Trailer: 2013 Lil Snoozy #161 (SOLD)/2010 Tacoma
NE Oklahoma
Posts: 2,358
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Yeah Carl, you have a Snoozy. John has a Scamp...
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You're right.......thanks.
My mind went in a different direction.
My apple is red, his orange is {well} orange.
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06-24-2013, 07:21 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
The Scamp specs recently said 13", but currently (just after a website update) say 14". 14" makes a lot more sense for a 3500 pound axle capacity... was 13" just a website error? Scamp 19' experts: what tire size should this trailer have?
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I''m thinking it's 13", the trailer is nine years old. Scamp did make a change to the 14" tires, I just don't remember when. So, we won't know tell John says....
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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06-24-2013, 07:23 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler (B1700RGH) 1979
Posts: 5,002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
I''m thinking it's 13", the trailer is nine years old. Scamp did make a change to the 14" tires, I just don't remember when.
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Thanks Donna
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1979 Boler B1700RGH, pulled by 2004 Toyota Sienna LE 2WD
Information is good. Lack of information is not so good, but misinformation is much worse. Check facts, and apply common sense liberally.
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06-24-2013, 08:15 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel
Posts: 1,861
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2004 S-19 std. came with 13" tires load range C. tires. With the lift mod. most people went to 14" or 15" tires and wheels. I ran 13" on a lifted S-19 trailer with no problems. If I were buying new wheels and tires I would go with 205 14s and maybe 15" if I had a full size pick up.
Eddie
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06-24-2013, 08:26 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
I suspect that the rest of us are assuming a 2004 Scamp 19'... perhaps John added that detail after Floyd's post.
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No Brian, I just missed it in his signature, but it is nice to know that there are others who don't read any more carefully than I!
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07-15-2013, 09:20 PM
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Member
Name: JW
Trailer: Casita
Missouri
Posts: 58
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Scamp bolt pattern
This 2004 19' has 14" wheels. I was able to purchase a set of new pacer
alum trailer wheels and fit perfectly and looks great.
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07-15-2013, 09:50 PM
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Member
Name: JW
Trailer: Casita
Missouri
Posts: 58
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New Pacer trailer wheels 14"
14" pacer trailer wheels
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