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05-28-2012, 03:53 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dylan
Trailer: 2001 Scamp 13'
British Columbia
Posts: 798
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Tiny 3000btu AC unit?!
I've found a tiny 3000 BTU AC unit, but it's made for industrial cooling and while I have not found any published prices I expect it to be many times the price of a cheap household unit. But it's tall, very thin form factor is quite interesting! I've heard it said that 5000btu can be overkill in a 13' egg. Will 3000btu be enough? My egg is about 6x10x6'. The 5000 btu units are often rated for 150+square feet and those are in 10' tall rooms, so would 3000btu be enough for a mere 60ft square x 6' volume?
Enclosure Cooling Air Conditioners
IQ3000MMR-126 3000 120V 6.0Amps 45lbs 30.02"Hx6.49"Wx6.02"D
Weighs 10 lbs more than a 5000btu window unit, but it should mount easily in the closet, over the axle, with just a few small vents to the outside. And there'll be a lot more closet left usable than if I stuff a window unit in there. If it's $500 may be doable, but if it's much more I'll have to use the lighter, more powerful, larger window unit.
Anyone else have thoughts on this?
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05-28-2012, 05:35 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,710
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Reminds me of the old computer towers from the 80's.
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05-28-2012, 05:36 PM
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Member
Name: Sean
Trailer: Bigfoot
Saskatchewan
Posts: 91
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I don't see how it would be a bad idea, though It probably will be way more the $500, never know though. As for BTU, it should be plenty.
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05-28-2012, 05:36 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Sue and Greg
Trailer: 1982 Burro 13 foot and a 2015 Casita Spitit Deluxe 17 ft.
Washington
Posts: 598
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This sounds very interesting. A thought though: the cooler housed in the small room next to my old classroom has a cooler with the same designed purpose as this one. It is very loud. You might check and compare the measured sound before you purchase. If you go with it please share. If it works, it would be a great solution.
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05-28-2012, 06:40 PM
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Senior Member
Name: James
Trailer: Uhaul CT-13
Ohio
Posts: 360
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In high 80 to 90+ degree heat and humidity my 5000 btu just keeps up, it is not overkill.
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05-28-2012, 06:48 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dylan
Trailer: 2001 Scamp 13'
British Columbia
Posts: 798
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Panoz77
In high 80 to 90+ degree heat and humidity my 5000 btu just keeps up, it is not overkill.
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Other have different experiences. Probably differences in shade and humidity have an effect, also one manufacturers 5000btu isn't always the same as another's 5000btu. Also age and condition of the unit will likely have an effect.
"And finally mounted. It was a hot day, the camper was roasting. That 5000 btu has the capability to cool it far below comfort level."
http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...amp-52150.html
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05-28-2012, 06:51 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dylan
Trailer: 2001 Scamp 13'
British Columbia
Posts: 798
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sue and Henry
This sounds very interesting. A thought though: the cooler housed in the small room next to my old classroom has a cooler with the same designed purpose as this one. It is very loud. You might check and compare the measured sound before you purchase. If you go with it please share. If it works, it would be a great solution.
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Yeah, that has crossed my mind and will be one of my first questions. I want to get clear on how the thermostat works etc.
Good chance this unit is not suitable, but it's worth looking at. It may be too expensive, and who knows how well it'll cool a hot trailer in direct sun. May be an expensive experiment.
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05-28-2012, 06:55 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dylan
Trailer: 2001 Scamp 13'
British Columbia
Posts: 798
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Panoz77
In high 80 to 90+ degree heat and humidity my 5000 btu just keeps up, it is not overkill.
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How is your AC unit installed? Closet? Or outside/window?
I have a feeling a closet install without good airflow may be inefficient/ineffective compared to having most of the unit exposed to fresh air.
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05-28-2012, 08:19 PM
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Senior Member
Name: James
Trailer: Uhaul CT-13
Ohio
Posts: 360
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Outside window mount, but good guess. Go ahead and buy an overly expensive 3000 btu unit, just giving my experience, have fun with it. 5000 btu is just that, if that is what it is rated, that is what it is.
Just curious, do you open your door much when camping? You tend to loose some cool air.
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05-28-2012, 09:27 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dylan
Trailer: 2001 Scamp 13'
British Columbia
Posts: 798
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I value your input. Just trying to perhaps stir a technical debate about the descrepancies in people's experiences. I'm assuming there is a technical reason and you folks aren't just making this stuff up! I fully acknowledge this is very possibly an expensive frustration when we know small window units like yours can be very satisfactory. Sorry if I came off rude, that wan't my intention.
Just trying to gauge just how crazy the idea is and I appreciate your reality check. I still want more data on these units.
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05-28-2012, 09:33 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dylan
Trailer: 2001 Scamp 13'
British Columbia
Posts: 798
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Oh, and the door. If I was in and out of the trailer a lot I probably wouldn't have much of an expectation of keeping it cool. It's for resting mostly.
Muggy hot nights are probably my worst nightmare. Can't sleep when sweating!
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05-28-2012, 10:15 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Sue and Greg
Trailer: 1982 Burro 13 foot and a 2015 Casita Spitit Deluxe 17 ft.
Washington
Posts: 598
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dylanear
Yeah, that has crossed my mind and will be one of my first questions. I want to get clear on how the thermostat works etc.
Good chance this unit is not suitable, but it's worth looking at. It may be too expensive, and who knows how well it'll cool a hot trailer in direct sun. May be an expensive experiment.
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Maybe, but I'm not willing to give up a window to the air conditioner unless I'm really forced to.. I like all the light I can get inside my little burro. I'm measuring that closet to see if I can find a portable to fit. It will mean losing what little storage there is and a vent cut which I don't like, but heat and I do not get along. Please post what you find.
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06-13-2012, 06:21 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dylan
Trailer: 2001 Scamp 13'
British Columbia
Posts: 798
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I have enough science experiments going on right now, I went with a standard 5000btu Frigidaire window unit with the remote and digital thermostat.
I'll post pictures as I install it.
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06-13-2012, 07:16 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Teardrop
Posts: 141
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06-13-2012, 07:22 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dave
Trailer: ,Bigfoot 25 foot plus Surfside 14 foot
British Columbia
Posts: 1,148
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Holy shock value Batman! At those prices, does it come with a lifetime supply the power to run it?
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06-13-2012, 08:46 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1986 Boler 1300 Voyager
Posts: 723
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5000 just satisfies our cooling needs and barely satisfies us when the camper is in direct sun light. 3000 btu is too low.
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06-17-2012, 04:37 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dylan
Trailer: 2001 Scamp 13'
British Columbia
Posts: 798
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Good to know!
Now, the main thing I need are some good outside vents for the side of the trailer. Something that will keep bugs and most importantly water, out of the trailer in wind, during towing, even in rain. But that will flow enough air to keep the unit working efficiently.
I talked to Scamp and they said they stopped putting in closet units because the older units that were reliable installed that way are no longer made. They say most window units are made to have unimpaired air flow and putting them in an enclosure makes them work extra hard and they are not built to last that long in the best of circumstances. At $160 pop it's not horrible to contemplate a new one every few years financially, but I HATE disposable crap ending up in landfills. Scamp said they'd go out of business if they had to warranty the installation of today's closet units.
May need to add a few large muffin fans to keep the air moving through the system.
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06-17-2012, 04:38 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dylan
Trailer: 2001 Scamp 13'
British Columbia
Posts: 798
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Oh, also, on whatever vent I use, some way to close it off will be needed. This trailer will see plenty of cold weather and loosing warmth through the AC unit is unacceptable.
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06-21-2012, 07:35 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 5500 1980
Posts: 121
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I had a 5,000 BTU unit in a 13 feet Trillium. In Mexico, interior temperature was 90F degrees (without humidity!!!) and it was 102F outside. It is not overkill. As a matter of fact 8,000 would be preferable. Forget about 3,000 BTU. This is useless.
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06-21-2012, 10:08 PM
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Senior Member
Name: James
Trailer: Uhaul CT-13
Ohio
Posts: 360
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Quote:
Originally Posted by normand choiniere
i had a 5,000 btu unit in a 13 feet trillium. In mexico, interior temperature was 90f degrees (without humidity!!!) and it was 102f outside. It is not overkill. As a matter of fact 8,000 would be preferable. Forget about 3,000 btu. This is useless.
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