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04-16-2012, 04:45 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Jeremy
Trailer: 13' Scamp
Washington
Posts: 8
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Tow hitch for Bike Carrier?
I have a 1997 13' Scamp and would like to get a tow hitch welded on the rear bumper to support a bike carrier. Has anyone done this or any suggestions? Thank you and Happy Scamping!
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04-16-2012, 06:32 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,707
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Of course Jeremy! But, think about a couple of things. You can't weld a tube reserver to the rear bumper and hope everything stays there. I've often said that most of these trailers have rear bumpers that are about as thick as tin foil. Add 50# to it... and cracks happen. Everything you add behind the axle also takes away from the tongue weight. You want to maintain 10-15% tounge weight to help sway issues. Do you like your bike? Remember, you won't be able to see it under tow and in the rain, the back of the trailer develops "road rash" just as bad as the front. If you really, really like your bike, I'd suggest this:
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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04-16-2012, 06:41 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2008 20 ft Flagstaff Pop-Up (206ST) / 2005 Sienna
Posts: 1,416
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Donna, do you know if that board the bikes are mounted to is secured somehow or is it free floating?
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Melissa in Florida
1999 Toyota Sienna XLE
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04-16-2012, 06:47 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,707
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Melissa, I have a couple of different pics... and I've had them so long I don't know where I got them! At least one, shows the board "anchored" front and back based on length... no where to slide. This was posted only to give Jeremy an "idea" of what other things can be done besides putting a bike "outside," plus welding, etc.
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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04-16-2012, 06:49 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2008 20 ft Flagstaff Pop-Up (206ST) / 2005 Sienna
Posts: 1,416
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Looks like a great idea to me! Trying to figure out how to carry bikes inside as well without resorting to spending money on folding ones. I wouldnt want to drill holes anywhere to anchor the board though.....Maybe some industrial velcro???
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Melissa in Florida
1999 Toyota Sienna XLE
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04-16-2012, 06:56 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
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Melissa, if the board goes completely front to back... or side to side, either way wedged tight there's no where for it to go. Remember, the entire bike doesn't need to ride on the board, just the tongue mounts.
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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04-16-2012, 07:25 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2008 20 ft Flagstaff Pop-Up (206ST) / 2005 Sienna
Posts: 1,416
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Oh ya, Duh! Thanks Donna!
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Melissa in Florida
1999 Toyota Sienna XLE
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04-16-2012, 08:44 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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Here are pictures from Tim Wood's Scamp 13 receiver project, his was done right for a 13.
Note that the bumper is cut out for more ground clearance....
Tim!! Chime in here!
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04-16-2012, 09:29 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Cyndi
Trailer: 2010 Scamp 5th Wheel/2019 Toyota Tundra
Iowa
Posts: 1,105
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Scamp did ours when we ordered the 5ver.
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04-16-2012, 09:41 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyndi B.
Scamp did ours when we ordered the 5ver.
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Scamp mounts all of theirs below the bumper, which is acceptable for the 16 and the 19.... but not the best idea for a 13.
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04-16-2012, 10:32 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1994 Lil Bigfoot and 1967 Traveleze Royal Traveler
Posts: 184
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Jeremy, I know you spoke of a carrier for the back of your Scamp. But this has worked well for me: http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...ack-34122.html
Still available Rackbiz - Automotive Accessories, Bike Rack Carriers, Camping Gear, Pet Supplies, Auto Accessories, Jeep, Chevy, Ford, Dodge, Truck Accessories
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Dave
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04-17-2012, 10:53 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Jeremy
Trailer: 13' Scamp
Washington
Posts: 8
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Thanks Donna! That is a great idea. We have a 3 year old and a 1 year old so we stop a lot on our trips to get in and out of the Scamp. I really like your set up...well done!
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04-17-2012, 10:55 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Jeremy
Trailer: 13' Scamp
Washington
Posts: 8
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Thanks Floyd...I know a local welder and I am going to show him this picture. I will post what I decide to do. Thanks for the information.
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04-17-2012, 11:04 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Jeremy
Trailer: 13' Scamp
Washington
Posts: 8
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Dave,
Thanks for the information. I like that set up a lot. Great price too. I am going to take the scamp to a local welder I know and see what he thinks and go from there. I will post pics of what i decide. Thanks again!
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04-17-2012, 11:11 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Jeremy if your at all concerned about taking to much weight off the Scamps tongue by putting the bikes on the rear (how much will depend on how much your bikes & rack you use weigh) and still want to be able to get in and out of the trailer while on the road putting the bikes on the roof of the tow vehicle is an option well worth considering.
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04-17-2012, 11:30 AM
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Senior Member
Name: kenny
Trailer: 93 "Lil" Bigfoot 13.5'
Utah
Posts: 519
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Jeremy
I bought a receiver hitch doubler. it has the std. 2" tube that goes into the tow vehicle. welded on top of this insert is another 2" tube it is 4"s higher than the tube below. the bottom tube becomes a new receiver for the hitch with the ball on it for the trailer. the top tube I put my Tulle (sic ?) bike rack hitch into. The two bikes are between the tow and the trailer. The Tulle rack pivots, and leans back toward the trailer. the "doubler receiver hitch" adds about 16"s to the common spacing that one gets with just a "regular receiver hitch",so you now have two receiver hitches coupled together. I bought this at Harbor Freight, bring it up on the web, to see what it looks like. One has to buy the tulle bike rack; or some other rack that may not pivot out of the way, of the tow rear door. YMMV
Later Kenny
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04-17-2012, 03:48 PM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: 1996 Casita 17 Spirit Deluxe; 1946 Modernistic teardrop
New York
Posts: 5,415
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[QUOTE=Donna D.;301595]Of course Jeremy! But, think about a couple of things. You can't weld a tube reserver to the rear bumper and hope everything stays there.
This is certain!! My brother-in-law had a "professional" welder put a receiver on the rear bumper of his popup camper. He just butt welded it to the bumper! Somewhere out on the interstate it broke off resulting in the bikes being dragged down the road. This topic has come up several times here and on another forum. The important thing to realize is that bikes on a rear rack will bounce a lot and put quite a bit of strain on the rack and receiver. A hang type rack will be worse because of leverage. I've made a few rear receivers on trailers, and made them so they attach to the bumper and two frame crossmembers. I have also reinforced the cross members with extra pieces of angle iron. I have also made a couple tongue mounted bike racks, and the bikes ride much better there. We just completed a 2500 mile trip with two bikes on the rear of our Uhaul. I am using the type rack where the bike wheels set into loops and arms with clamps hold them by the top frame tube. Half way into the trip I found that the part of the rack where the support arms attach was starting to bend back, so I had to go to Home Depot and get some angle & clamps to reinforce it temporarily to get home. This is one item that has to be well built. I think I read somewhere that some racks specify that they are not to be used on the rear of a trailer, and I just installed a hitch on that same brother-in-laws new car, and the directions said it is not to be used with a bike rack. Bob
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04-17-2012, 05:01 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1991 17 ft Horizon
Posts: 764
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Sorry Floyd for coming in here late, and thanks for the kind words. Yes it can be done right, just a little thought behind the idea is all you need. I did cut out the bumper and welded in and around the receiver, then took some square stock and welded it to the end of the receiver and to both sides of the frame. I'm sure it would handle plenty of weight, and bikes were no problem for me. Never had any problems with sway either, but did have double tanks on the tongue.
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04-23-2012, 08:11 AM
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Senior Member
Name: john
Trailer: scamp 13
Michigan
Posts: 1,318
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NW Scamp
I have a 1997 13' Scamp and would like to get a tow hitch welded on the rear bumper to support a bike carrier. Has anyone done this or any suggestions? Thank you and Happy Scamping!
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i had the factory installed receiver put on mine. i assume they don't put a different bumper on depending on if your having one installed at the factory. which means,,,,any good welder could hook you up. but to be sure,,, a phone call to scamp will tell you if what i speak is prime bologna. or only discount bologna.
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04-23-2012, 08:29 AM
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#20
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Junior Member
Name: Katey
Trailer: 13' Deluxe Scamp
Minnesota
Posts: 11
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Has anyone used this type of spare tire rack on a 13'?
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