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05-06-2016, 07:05 AM
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#181
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Senior Member
Trailer: Home Built
Posts: 185
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Originally Posted by Johnny M
That is a great idea! Ingeniues that is why I love this forum! One more question. So would you cut it to fit the conduit frame and glass it to the conduit and if so how would you clean up the edges, more glass then filler?
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Rivet it to the frame, glass the edges, remove the rivets and bondo the edges, rivet hole and defects and paint....easy and you can do it Fiberglass Dave
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05-06-2016, 09:15 AM
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#182
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: '71 Boler, '87 Play-Mor II
Deep South
Posts: 1,261
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Thanks Dave, now that I have a good plan I am going to work on this today, will let you know how it turns out...this thread and your advice given here are indispensable to this forum! If we ever meet up at a rally or campsite somewhere I will gladly buy you a beer!
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05-06-2016, 08:55 PM
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#183
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Senior Member
Trailer: Home Built
Posts: 185
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny M
Thanks Dave, now that I have a good plan I am going to work on this today, will let you know how it turns out...this thread and your advice given here are indispensable to this forum! If we ever meet up at a rally or campsite somewhere I will gladly buy you a beer!
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I love Beer almost as much as fiberglass and aluminum
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06-22-2016, 02:27 PM
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#184
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Junior Member
Name: Jonathan
Trailer: Dog Grooming buses
California
Posts: 12
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I've got a doozy!
OK, so I've read the entire thread just about twice now and I think I have built up the confidence to try; thanks Dave! I REALLY appreciate your approach and attitude in this thread. It's rare and refreshing. Thanks for the help!
My question is how do I start to fix this problem? Is it above the rookie level? I've never messed with fiberglass before but I have 5 commercial vehicles with fiberglass structures and so it would greatly benefit me to learn how.
How should I tackle this repair? Cut it completely out? Smash it back to basic form and fill and grind smooth? What are your suggestions? It doesn't look like the regular mat or cloth I have seen in this post, is it different? Is it something I can go buy? Am I asking so many questons you're thinking I should put down the computer and step away from the forum?
Thanks for helping if you can!
Joanthan
Hopefully the pictures are visible.
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06-22-2016, 02:40 PM
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#185
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: '71 Boler, '87 Play-Mor II
Deep South
Posts: 1,261
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door repair
Dave,
Just wanted to say thanks for your help, I have been so busy I forgot to post pictures of the door inside skin repair. Your idea worked great! I was surprised at how the glass held its shape using the outside of the door. Now I am ready to try to make a custom shower pan and a small fiberglass sink for the wet bath in my Boler...
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06-22-2016, 02:43 PM
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#186
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Senior Member
Name: Kelly
Trailer: Trails West
Oregon
Posts: 3,047
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Originally Posted by FoxyRoxys
OK, so I've read the entire thread just about twice now and I think I have built up the confidence to try; thanks Dave! I REALLY appreciate your approach and attitude in this thread. It's rare and refreshing. Thanks for the help!
My question is how do I start to fix this problem? Is it above the rookie level? I've never messed with fiberglass before but I have 5 commercial vehicles with fiberglass structures and so it would greatly benefit me to learn how.
How should I tackle this repair? Cut it completely out? Smash it back to basic form and fill and grind smooth? What are your suggestions? It doesn't look like the regular mat or cloth I have seen in this post, is it different? Is it something I can go buy? Am I asking so many questons you're thinking I should put down the computer and step away from the forum?
Thanks for helping if you can!
Joanthan
Hopefully the pictures are visible.
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You have a lot of compound surfaces going on there. That is not going to be an easy beginners repair. So depending on how talented and how patient you personally are it may or may not be a rookie level repair. The worst part of it will be creating some backers for the repair area that follow those contours. If you have some talent at sculpture I would say you have a fair chance of getting the job done. If making 3D shapes to match another shape is something you find difficult to do then it will be a struggle for you to accomplish it.
The shell was not laid up with the kind of stuff you can buy in a hardware store. Here is a video on how they do it. But this method is not how you are going to be repairing it. You will be able to repair it with stuff you can buy in the stores.
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06-22-2016, 02:54 PM
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#187
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: '71 Boler, '87 Play-Mor II
Deep South
Posts: 1,261
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Here is a few more pics...I didn't take any more pics but after I filled and sanded all the edges down and block sanded the inside flat surface of the door it turned out very nice. I put marine vinyl directly over the inside of the door rather than painting it so it matched the interior but the DAP contact cement didn't hold so I got to redo it or find a better adhesive. I applied it to both the door and the vinyl and let tack up for 5 minutes the pressed it in place, 2 weeks later it started letting go. The vinyl also shrunk from the 90 plus degree summer Georgia heat. I know this is off topic Dave but do you have any suggestions?
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06-23-2016, 06:38 AM
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#188
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Senior Member
Trailer: Home Built
Posts: 185
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxyRoxys
OK, so I've read the entire thread just about twice now and I think I have built up the confidence to try; thanks Dave! I REALLY appreciate your approach and attitude in this thread. It's rare and refreshing. Thanks for the help!
My question is how do I start to fix this problem? Is it above the rookie level? I've never messed with fiberglass before but I have 5 commercial vehicles with fiberglass structures and so it would greatly benefit me to learn how.
How should I tackle this repair? Cut it completely out? Smash it back to basic form and fill and grind smooth? What are your suggestions? It doesn't look like the regular mat or cloth I have seen in this post, is it different? Is it something I can go buy? Am I asking so many questons you're thinking I should put down the computer and step away from the forum?
Thanks for helping if you can!
Joanthan
Hopefully the pictures are visible.
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You can do this, do not get afraid from naysayers. I need to know if you can get to the damage and work from the inside and we will go from there....Fiberglass Dave
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06-23-2016, 06:39 AM
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#189
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Senior Member
Trailer: Home Built
Posts: 185
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny M
Dave,
Just wanted to say thanks for your help, I have been so busy I forgot to post pictures of the door inside skin repair. Your idea worked great! I was surprised at how the glass held its shape using the outside of the door. Now I am ready to try to make a custom shower pan and a small fiberglass sink for the wet bath in my Boler...
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Excellent work here...Fiberglass Dave
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06-23-2016, 06:45 AM
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#190
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Senior Member
Trailer: Home Built
Posts: 185
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny M
Here is a few more pics...I didn't take any more pics but after I filled and sanded all the edges down and block sanded the inside flat surface of the door it turned out very nice. I put marine vinyl directly over the inside of the door rather than painting it so it matched the interior but the DAP contact cement didn't hold so I got to redo it or find a better adhesive. I applied it to both the door and the vinyl and let tack up for 5 minutes the pressed it in place, 2 weeks later it started letting go. The vinyl also shrunk from the 90 plus degree summer Georgia heat. I know this is off topic Dave but do you have any suggestions?
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Sorry for the problem but you can easily fix it. Go to an upholstery shop and get some vinyl top glue made for cars...clean off the failing glue and redo with it....no problem and you did it yourself. This isn't a failure, it is a learning experience just like going to college. Imagine how much money you could save if you did everything your self your entire life and never hired anyone to repair anything...thousands...knowledge and experience is money.
Good luck...Fiberglass Dave
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06-23-2016, 08:10 AM
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#191
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Senior Member
Trailer: U-Haul CT13
Posts: 778
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Nothing special about repairing that Foxy and there's nothing special about those that do...most people don't even wanna do that stuff. It's messy at times and all but isn't hard at all.
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06-23-2016, 09:10 AM
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#192
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Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: Casita
Georgia
Posts: 43
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I've never done fiberglass and don't have a trailer (yet...shopping), but I just have to say "Thanks" to Dave--this thread is what makes the Internet great. Fantastic info, and I love the way you answer everyone not only with facts, but with "you can do it". Fabulous.
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06-23-2016, 10:28 AM
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#193
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Junior Member
Name: Jonathan
Trailer: Dog Grooming buses
California
Posts: 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D White
You can do this, do not get afraid from naysayers. I need to know if you can get to the damage and work from the inside and we will go from there....Fiberglass Dave
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Yeah, I can to to it from the inside. It's up in a cabinet.
My groomer ran into the corner of an overhang/eve on a customer's house...stabbed right though it.
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06-23-2016, 03:22 PM
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#194
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Senior Member
Name: Dave W
Trailer: Trillium 4500 - 1976, 1978, 1979, 1300 - 1977, and a 1973
Alberta
Posts: 6,926
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxyRoxys
Yeah, I can to to it from the inside. It's up in a cabinet.
My groomer ran into the corner of an overhang/eve on a customer's house...stabbed right though it.
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It looks like someone already tried to fix it. There is a large flat section, on the front that seems to not fit the profile of the rest of the front. Possibly others. This may complicate your repair.
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06-24-2016, 08:36 AM
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#195
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Senior Member
Trailer: Home Built
Posts: 185
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxyRoxys
Yeah, I can to to it from the inside. It's up in a cabinet.
My groomer ran into the corner of an overhang/eve on a customer's house...stabbed right though it.
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Just sand/grind to fresh glass (using safety stuff as previously discussed) then push raised broken areas to below level. Then go inside and put some waxed paper to the bottom of the area and tape and support with cardboard or anything you can think of, Mix according to instructions and put new fiberglass from the outside in no more than 3 layers at a time. Let cure, sand and put some more in the low areas (always sand between, remember?) Don't worry about the naysayers saying you might have perceived problems. Do it...if if is too high, sand it to level...too low, put some more on...You can do it
Fiberglass Dave
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06-24-2016, 10:21 AM
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#196
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Senior Member
Name: Joe
Trailer: 1973 13' Boler
Ontario
Posts: 182
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Like Dave said... just do it. It's not hard, just be patient. The beauty of fiberglass is if you mess it up you just sand it off and try again.
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06-24-2016, 11:06 AM
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#197
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Junior Member
Name: Jonathan
Trailer: Dog Grooming buses
California
Posts: 12
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So basically leave what's there now, sand/grind that? Or remove it?
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06-24-2016, 12:47 PM
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#198
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Senior Member
Trailer: U-Haul CT13
Posts: 778
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Yes...push it around and down into shape as best you can....that flat area he's talking about looks like it may have been pushed up to high from inside after the accident? Yould know if a repair was done , so I ask.
Get it back to looking the part...back it inside with the wax paper and whatever as he said..start laying on cloth and resin. If prices are missing, maybe do them small ones first and it'll help hold the shape. It isn't really hard, you'll see. But it can get messy.
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06-24-2016, 12:50 PM
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#199
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Senior Member
Name: Joe
Trailer: 1973 13' Boler
Ontario
Posts: 182
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Looking at the pics, I would leave it. The holes are large so I would go with a backing plate. Luan plywood works well as it is rigid yet it bends well. Anything really will work you just need to attach it to the inside.
Get rid of all the loose stuff. When you do your first application of mat and resin, let it harden well. Your first sand will take care of all the small fibers still poking up.
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06-24-2016, 04:34 PM
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#200
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Senior Member
Name: Dave
Trailer: Casita SD17 2006 "Missing Link"
California
Posts: 3,738
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxyRoxys
So basically leave what's there now, sand/grind that? Or remove it?
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I can't seem to enlarge the pics but it looks to me like its been repaired before. The large flat piece looks like a patch/fix from something that was removed. Perfect time to clean that up too.
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