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09-01-2012, 06:15 PM
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Junior Member
Name: sam
Trailer: 1977 boler 13
Pennsylvania
Posts: 5
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77 boler tail lights
I recently purchased a 1977 boler 13'. Its in decent shape except for some heavy oxidation on the lower half which I can deal with using a little elbow grease. My question is about the tail lights. They are not the round flush type found on most bolers. They have a square protruding frame which I do not
really find attractive. Can this housing be removed and the tail lights replaced with the original round type. I am attaching a couple of photos to illustrate the weird tail ight housing.
Sam Cramer
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09-01-2012, 06:30 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
Posts: 5,137
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Sam,
I don't think this is a boler, a boler descendant perhaps. Is there anything on the trailer that ID's it as a boler? Name Plates, VIN etc?
What does the area under the bench where the lights are look like?
It appears to me that the existing tail lights are aftermarket.
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09-01-2012, 06:37 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Chalet
Posts: 513
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Have no idea about removing them but I would have to guess"after market"...no matter what brand it is.
Like you I think I would be looking into some other style of tail light....hate to dis anyones trailer,but since you already did( sort of) those things are ugly
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09-01-2012, 08:28 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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I have never seen lights like that on a boler before..... not saying its not a boler just wondering if its possible a modification done by the previous owner rather than how it was from the factory..... but then again you never know. On the bottom photo on the side of the trailer a few inches from the rear lights is that a little bit of white where there was some body work done? If so I would suggest that is where the small side markers were taken from.
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09-01-2012, 10:10 PM
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Junior Member
Name: sam
Trailer: 1977 boler 13
Pennsylvania
Posts: 5
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it is a boler
Inside the cabinet door is a sheet which states
Earlton MFG Co Ltd
PO Box 256
Earlton, Ont
Boler-1300-77
Serial # 2010
There is also a metallic plate on the left side
boler trailer
model 1300-77, serial 2010, date 8-76
GVWR 1250 GAWR 1200
I suppose I will try to remove them and see what is underneath. As far as I can tell there has been no body work done to the trailer.
Thanks for all your responses. I will post my remedy as I proceed.
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09-01-2012, 11:28 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
Posts: 5,137
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Amazing!
And there are no marks under the benches to indicate that any body work has been done? No holes for side markers or other lights?
Maybe after the long weekend someone will be able to say.
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09-02-2012, 06:36 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Matt and Lindsey
Trailer: 1972 Boler 1300
British Columbia
Posts: 140
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Those do not look stock to me. The PO must have had that done. The lights themselves look like Princess auto product or at least boat/trailer light kit. I am going to go out on a limb and say those are definitely not stock. The research we have done looking for our Boler which lasted over a year we never came across lights like those.
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09-03-2012, 07:36 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler American (#3104)
Posts: 554
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Interesting.
The lights themselves definitely look aftermarket.
But the housings look very well fitted and contoured to the body shell.
As Roy already asked; what does the inside of where the lights are mounted, under the benches look like?
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09-03-2012, 10:40 AM
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Junior Member
Name: sam
Trailer: 1977 boler 13
Pennsylvania
Posts: 5
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boler tailights
The inside under the rear bench seats shows no sign of any alteration. No
holes or marks from any other modification. My guess is that the housing itself might be "original" but the lights themselves are new and aftermarket. The housings are riveted to the fiberglass shell and there is no recess like most
original bolers have for the round tailights. The existing ones do work so I will keep them as is until I figure out how to go about replacing them with more
stylish light fixtures.
Sam
PS my original water tank is also cracked and leaks like a sieve.
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09-03-2012, 04:15 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler American (#3104)
Posts: 554
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Quote:
Originally Posted by samcram
The inside under the rear bench seats shows no sign of any alteration. No holes or marks from any other modification. My guess is that the housing itself might be "original" but the lights themselves are new and aftermarket. The housings are riveted to the fiberglass shell and there is no recess like most original bolers have for the round tailights. ...
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Well, Sir! Sounds like you have an interesting and unique Boler.
Perhaps one to add to the albums and Boler History.
On second look, it does appear that the white panels are also added on to the body color housings. Perhaps to cover the mounting points of the original lights and act as a base for the new ones.
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09-03-2012, 04:22 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliveAlive
Well, Sir! Sounds like you have an interesting and unique Boler.
Perhaps one to add to the albums and Boler History.
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Does anyone else have an Earlton MFG Co Ltd Boler that was originally that color & with that style lights? Might be something to ask about on Bolerama site before rewriting Boler history based on one trailer
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09-03-2012, 08:18 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler American (#3104)
Posts: 554
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carol H
Does anyone else have an Earlton MFG Co Ltd Boler that was originally that color & with that style lights? Might be something to ask about on Bolerama site before rewriting Boler history based on one trailer
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You do realize that post was written in the subjunctive?
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09-03-2012, 10:17 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliveAlive
You do realize that post was written in the subjunctive?
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Yup but the test is which is it? A past or future or a present negative subjunctive?
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09-15-2012, 07:25 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler 1300 1977 (#2033 L EGGO)
Posts: 268
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The mystery deepens
Quote:
Originally Posted by samcram
Inside the cabinet door is a sheet which states
Earlton MFG Co Ltd
PO Box 256
Earlton, Ont
Boler-1300-77
Serial # 2010
There is also a metallic plate on the left side
boler trailer
model 1300-77, serial 2010, date 8-76
GVWR 1250 GAWR 1200
I suppose I will try to remove them and see what is underneath. As far as I can tell there has been no body work done to the trailer.
Thanks for all your responses. I will post my remedy as I proceed.
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Hi, I've been away but had bookmarked your post for a reply.
I also have an Earlton manufactured boler
model 1300-77 serial 2033, date 10-76
By all logical standards this means that mine was 23 units behind your on the assembly line. (That looks like they manufactured about 10 units per month). They are both the same colours, same bumper configuration and look identical except for the tail lights. Mine is the standard, inset housing with round lights. I did replace the originals with perfect fit LED lights. The area holding the lights is definitely molded right into the fiberglass body.
Please let us know when the mystery is solved.
Des
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09-16-2012, 07:02 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler 1300 1977 (#2033 L EGGO)
Posts: 268
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Correction
The area holding the lights is definitely molded right into the fiberglass body.
Des[/QUOTE]
Sorry! It came to me overnight -- while the tail-light holder is definitely molded fibreglass, it is done separately and then blind-riveted into a hole in the main camper body.
See attached photo.
Des.
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09-22-2012, 09:19 AM
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Junior Member
Name: sam
Trailer: 1977 boler 13
Pennsylvania
Posts: 5
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more on tailights
Des,
Thanks for your response since our Bolers were "born" at the same place.
I have attached a couple of more photos of the tailight details showing the housing with the aftermarket lights removed. As you can see there is no cutout for the standard tailight assembly. If one looks closely you can see a circular outline etched into the fiberglass at the bottom of the housing photo and at the top of the more close up photo. After cleaning off the oxidation this outline in also evident on the other side tailight area. I guess I will just have to stay with the box like assembly or go through the hassle of actually cutting out the holes
and trying to find the right fixtures. Does anyone have other ideas?
Thanks for all the feedback. Perhaps I will just keep it as an "ugly duckling".
Sam
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09-22-2012, 11:27 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
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Sam, I like them. As I've said before, I'd rather be one of one than one of many and you have something unique. I'd recognize your trailer at a gathering!!
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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09-22-2012, 11:49 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
Posts: 5,137
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I agree with Donna. Were they a test? Who knows. It would be nice to see what fits into the original holes.
The etching or scribing appears to support that what you have is a unique original.
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09-22-2012, 02:10 PM
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Junior Member
Name: sam
Trailer: 1977 boler 13
Pennsylvania
Posts: 5
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funky tailight
Thanks to all who responded. I agree with Donna and Roy that they are unique
so I will most likely keep them as is. If anyone has any more info on this
"unique" tailight arrangement please let me and the others in this thread know.
Sam
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09-22-2012, 02:55 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 5,112
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My guess would be a that this was a sold prototype. Small companies can't afford to make prototypes, then destroy them like a big manufacturing company can. Enjoy the uniqueness!
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