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Old 12-19-2016, 09:29 PM   #1
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can I replace incandescent bulbs with led?

Hey all, I don't mind the light fixtures in my 84' burro and wandering if I could just replace the bulbs with something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/10-Pack-18-SM...R21NAQGQ7SB6S5

I was looking at some inexpensive LED lights but if I could just do the bulbs and have the same effect I will just for times sake.
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Old 12-20-2016, 10:35 AM   #2
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You can with a few considerations. The LEDs must work at the voltage that your incandescent fixtures provide. The optical output should be close to what your incandescents provide, and the color temperature to your liking. The LED base must match the fixture socket. I am not familiar with the Burro's electrical system, so I don't know if it is 12 volt DC or 110 AC. At 12 volt DC many, many LED lamps are available. I replaced all the lamps on my Scamp, both running and interior, with LEDs for about $25 using LEDs from Ebay. If you wish to replace the running lamps, they MUST be a direct substitute for the incandescent, including emitting light in the right direction to make them visible to other drivers.
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Some of the "Kits" include adapters that fir the varied sockets and also have connectors that allow the changing of polarity as well.
I bought one set that has great output.
10x Warm White T10 BA15S 1156 LED 48SMD Panel Interior Dome Map RV Trailer LightThis set has great output and the adapters etc.



Theas are warm white and also available in xenon white

10x Xenon White 48-SMD LED Panel Interior Dome Map Light +1156 BA15S+T10 Adapter | eBay

These have the highest output I have tried.
I think two of them will replace the T-18 flourescent lamps in my 5th wheel, but I have not tried them yet.

I bought a pack of these, but I was not impressed. They did work, hwever, but dim.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

These were better, but not as bright as those costing twice as much.
Useable, however

http://www.ebay.com/itm/20x-T10-194-...item43f4ae850b

Most of my small lights use the wedge type of socket and these worked.

If you want bright and warm white and adapters etc. try the first one listed
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The interior is all 12v and that is what I will be replacing. I am not worried about the exterior lights as I am not planning on replacing them anytime soon, thanks though.
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Unless you are trying to remain authentic, I would buy new fixtures with the bulbs that are designed for them and replace the old. Likely not that more expensive, but easier than adapting new technology to old.
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Unless you are trying to remain authentic, I would buy new fixtures with the bulbs that are designed for them and replace the old. Likely not that more expensive, but easier than adapting new technology to old.
They are inexpensive fixtures, I just didn't want to have to go rewire anything or re-drill new holes. I figured popping a few bulbs in would save me time (which for something this inexpensive is more important than money). There are only 5 interior lights though, so it might be worth it
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Check the type of sockets your fixtures have, so you know if you need wedge base or bayonet base. Get the right base and it should be plug-n-play. One caveat: LEDs are usually sensitive to the direction of current flow, so if your new LED doesn't light up right away, take it out and rotate it and put it in the opposite way. If the installation did require odd adapters, then buying new fixtures would be more justifiable but probably still optional.
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"Some of the "Kits" include adapters that fir the varied sockets and also have connectors that allow the changing of polarity as well.
I bought one set that has great output.
10x Warm White T10 BA15S 1156 LED 48SMD Panel Interior Dome Map RV Trailer LightThis set has great output and the adapters etc.



Theas are warm white and also available in xenon white

10x Xenon White 48-SMD LED Panel Interior Dome Map Light +1156 BA15S+T10 Adapter | eBay

These have the highest output I have tried.
I think two of them will replace the T-18 flourescent lamps in my 5th wheel, but I have not tried them yet." -- redbarron55




Hi, redbarron,


You posted this on 12/20/2016. We ordered them within an hour of seeing your post, and they arrived on Christmas Eve afternoon...only 3 days.


Paul had them installed in twenty minutes (because he stopped to make & drink a cup of coffee first) and they are super!


Clean white, warm but not yellow (our 12V bulbs gave out a dimmish, yellowish light and were hot, and our other LED bulbs were a glaring blue-white that hurt our eyes). We only used 7, so have 3 spares, and they come with enough extra fittings to use them in 4 different applications. You could even wire them in direct if that was what you wanted.


Thanks for the recommendation! They are super! Free shipping, and under $20. Paul says they're his favorite Christmas gift this year--he says they're PERFECT, and this man has seldom called anything perfect, not even "me!"


Happy New Year!


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You have to be very careful when choosing the correct style of LED to use in an enclosed fixture such as one that mounts against the ceiling. Some of the LED bulbs being sold have an array of the chips going around all sides. You should never use those in the RV wall or ceiling mounted light fixtures as they can cause a fire. The LEDs you should retrofit into those units should be arrayed across a flat base panel and then you use double sided foam tape to mount that array to the metal surface of the light fixture and a small plug on a wire cord will fit into the original bulb base of the fixture. Using this type of flat panel LED will distribute the heat across a wide area thereby reducing any concentrated hot spots such as can be created by the LED bulb set ups that are arrayed in a circle around a bulb base.

Remember what I have just told you to do. Choosing the wrong LED replacement bulb for enclosed RV light fixtures has been known to cause fires and it actually is a very real danger.
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I suppose it is possible to overheat a fixture with an LED replacement, but since the LEDs draw so much less current the wattage dissipated is considerably less than an equivalent bulb.
Look at this picture of my favorites which are flat and have sticky tape on the back to stick to the back of the fixture and they seem to work well.

I have been happy with these and I have installed them in several spots in my full time fiver. Since they replace the bulbs they run cooler than the original.
There are two thumbs up on these from me and Kai in Seattle.
Absolutely no guarantees on these thumbs up since your mileage may vary, but I am happy with the ones I have installed.
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Kai in Seattle's thumbs up would be more valuable if she could count.


Posted 12/20, ordered within the hour, delivered Christmas eve--NOT 3 days, but 4.


Oh well! Still felt lightning fast and was under the tree for the next morning!


Seemed like 3!


Kai


PS--great larger pic--note there are NO lights on the sides, only the flat front side. LEDs have come a LONG way since we had our GetAwayVan and first used them at our son's insistence. They were so dim, then, that you not only couldn't read by them, you could barely see to use the porta-potti!


Now? Lit up like a landing field! Yaaaaay! Read? You betcha!
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This is little off topic but today I decided to replace the burned out bulbs in my garage door openers. Went to Walmart and looked for the heavy duty bulbs. Then it hit me, LED, dummy! They were nearby, direct replacement, four for $8. At my age, it's not likely I'll have to do this again!
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I am busy (but slowly) changing all of the lights in the house and the camper(s) to leds.
They have made a lit of progress and the cost is coming down nicely.
The trick is to get the color you really want
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Does anyone have a list of what led's are needed for a late model Casita Spirit D/L? If so kindly forward it to me. Thanks in advance.
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Hey all, I don't mind the light fixtures in my 84' burro and wandering if I could just replace the bulbs with something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/10-Pack-18-SM...R21NAQGQ7SB6S5

I was looking at some inexpensive LED lights but if I could just do the bulbs and have the same effect I will just for times sake.
Josh,

Simply pull out an existing incandescent bulb and look at it's base. Two connections on the bottom or one? Alignment pins lined up or offset?

Then go to Walmart, an RV store or an auto parts store. Match the base design with what you have and get it. Go home and plug it in.

You may not be able to find different brightnesses, but you can certainly easily find some to plug right in.

There is no need to overthink this. Don't get bogged down with all the wavelength questions or kits to build your own (unless you want a project of that kind). This is not rocket science.

I found some in red too. Very nice for some interior light at night, or an exterior light that preserves your night vision while sitting outside.
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Does anyone have a list of what led's are needed for a late model Casita Spirit D/L? If so kindly forward it to me. Thanks in advance.
Ten BA15's for the 17', nine for the 16', and seven for the 13' models.

Add one T-10 range light for all.

BA15 is basically the 15mm bayonet socket configuration for the normally-supplied 1141 incandescent bulbs.
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"Some of the "Kits" include adapters that fir the varied sockets and also have connectors that allow the changing of polarity as well.
I bought one set that has great output.
10x Warm White T10 BA15S 1156 LED 48SMD Panel Interior Dome Map RV Trailer LightThis set has great output and the adapters etc.



Theas are warm white and also available in xenon white

10x Xenon White 48-SMD LED Panel Interior Dome Map Light +1156 BA15S+T10 Adapter | eBay

These have the highest output I have tried.
I think two of them will replace the T-18 flourescent lamps in my 5th wheel, but I have not tried them yet." -- redbarron55




Hi, redbarron,


You posted this on 12/20/2016. We ordered them within an hour of seeing your post, and they arrived on Christmas Eve afternoon...only 3 days.


Paul had them installed in twenty minutes (because he stopped to make & drink a cup of coffee first) and they are super!


Clean white, warm but not yellow (our 12V bulbs gave out a dimmish, yellowish light and were hot, and our other LED bulbs were a glaring blue-white that hurt our eyes). We only used 7, so have 3 spares, and they come with enough extra fittings to use them in 4 different applications. You could even wire them in direct if that was what you wanted.


Thanks for the recommendation! They are super! Free shipping, and under $20. Paul says they're his favorite Christmas gift this year--he says they're PERFECT, and this man has seldom called anything perfect, not even "me!"


Happy New Year!


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I ordered the same set on 12/26 as I followed this tread, it didn't work out so well for me. It took until 1/4 to receive them, probably because of the holiday, and they sent me the wrong base. Instead of the 1156, they had a BA53 base which is way to small. In all fairness they have agreed to a refund through EBay, but now I have 10 of the wrong LEDs and none to put in the Campster. I'll try one of the other links to see if I can get the right set.

Edit: The set I bought were from ALLWINSHOP. I think someone probably grabbed form the wrong bin.
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Old 01-07-2017, 09:01 PM   #18
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Hello All, I purchased the warm white led's suggested by Mike & Dave on ebay from groupbuy ordered on 12/27 received on 1/3, I had the time to install them yesterday 1/6, out of the 10 received there was 1 bad base socket that was quickly resolved by groupbuy. I am so impressed by the new lighting & the great advice that I got. Thanks again Guys, Steve E
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Dave Fish--that's really a shame! I think, too, that they sometimes grab from the wrong bins. We had an order of magnets for Peanut last spring that were supposed to have a hole in the center (for screws) but didn't...we re-ordered (for free) from the original seller and finally got the right ones after a bit of back-and-forthing with them.


Paul has suggested someone could take off the wrong ends and somehow wire them together and make one large under-counter "fixture" for some real good working lighting...SOUNDS good, and I bet there are those on FGRV who could.


Hope you find the right thing sooner or later; it's a joy when the lighting is "right."


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Dave Fish--that's really a shame! I think, too, that they sometimes grab from the wrong bins. We had an order of magnets for Peanut last spring that were supposed to have a hole in the center (for screws) but didn't...we re-ordered (for free) from the original seller and finally got the right ones after a bit of back-and-forthing with them.


Paul has suggested someone could take off the wrong ends and somehow wire them together and make one large under-counter "fixture" for some real good working lighting...SOUNDS good, and I bet there are those on FGRV who could.


Hope you find the right thing sooner or later; it's a joy when the lighting is "right."


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There are two other base connectors that might work in something, but not for the Campster and I don't think my class A. Since I am an amateur radio operator and most of our radios operate on 12v I'm thinking like Paul, that there might be an alternate use.

I did order another set that should be here on Thursday at the same price plus Washington sales tax I'll provide an update when they arrive.
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