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09-30-2012, 06:09 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 4500
Posts: 2,050
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Dream Solar system
Okay I bought this older 1984 Scamp 19' last summer. I'm currently getting all my ducks in a row as to what I am going to do with it. I've decided to go ahead with the "systems" end of it prior to the cosmetics or comfort. I know I want a decent solar system but don't want to just throw away money so I'm soliciting advice. I will say I have read some stuff on here and I love what Peterh did with his solar panels incorporating them into the lines of his trailer. Can anyone point me in the direction of how he installed it? Also does anyone else have suggestions? From other systems I've had in the past I am partial to a fixed system that I don't have to take down and store. I know there are several advantages to a portable system but I'm getting lazy the older I get LOL!
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09-30-2012, 08:02 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1982 Fiber Stream and 2001 Casita Spirit Deluxe (I'm down to 2!)
Posts: 1,989
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I like the idea of a dual panel system so I can have one fixed on the trailer and a 2nd that I can always have in direct sun,unlike where I want the trailer.
To me the ideal or dream system is one that I ca afford!
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09-30-2012, 08:25 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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I have an 80 watt system.
It is taped to the roof and is virtually invisible. It weighs only 5 lbs and requires no actions on my part other then occasionally wiping off the road dust. It has virtually no effect on the areodynamics of the rig since it's only a tenth of an inch thick.
No one will ever steal it because first they don't know it's there, you simply can not see it from the ground.
It takes up no storage space. Stored solar panels don't work while you're driving and on average we're driving every three days.
The only con is that you can't put it in the sun when parked in the shade. As well it's a little more expensive.
You can see it under modifications/Preparing a 1991 Scamp.
So far the panel has been adequate for our off line power needs.
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Norm and Ginny
2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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09-30-2012, 08:38 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: U-Haul VT16
Posts: 982
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Update all your lighting to LED, gravity furnace, Humphrey LP light for
boondocking. Just a few things to think about in your spare time.
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09-30-2012, 08:41 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Hammel
Peterh did with his solar panels incorporating them into the lines of his trailer. Can anyone point me in the direction of how he installed it? !
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There was a workshop a couple of years back at the Bandon meet explaining how its done. If you send Peter a PM through the forum and he may already have something written up on it.
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09-30-2012, 10:28 AM
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Moderator
Trailer: Fiber Stream 1978 / Honda Odyssey LX 2003
Posts: 8,222
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carol H
If you send Peter a PM through the forum and he may already have something written up on it.
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Peter's Thread: http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...nel-29810.html
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Frederick - The Scaleman
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09-30-2012, 11:37 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 5,112
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I noticed some pretty good deals at Solar Blvd.
Solar Cell, Solar Panel, Renewable Energy, Wind Energy, Charge Controller, Solar Trackers - Solar Cell, Solar Panel, Solar PV, Solar Products, Charge Controllers, Solar Trackers
I paid $130 for a 60 watt panel a few months ago, including shipping. Shipping on these panels would be about $20 for me.
This in spite of recent tariffs on Chinese panels.
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09-30-2012, 02:15 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 4500
Posts: 2,050
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Norm, what kind of panel do you have that is only 1/10 of an inch thick. Sounds pricey?
PS I always love reading about your and Ginny's exploits.
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09-30-2012, 02:24 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 4500
Posts: 2,050
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Solar blvd is a nice site, I'm like a kid in a candy store. The only thing now is how much capacity is too much. I suppose I need to figure out what my most likely battery configuration is going to be and how much draw I will have each day. I also need a solar converter, any suggestions?
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09-30-2012, 02:44 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Steve,
We have 80 watts and last year the price was $400 with free shipping.
I particularly like the fact that they do not effect the aerodynamics, require no holes except for the wires and weigh virtually nothing.
The only updating we're doing is to add a bigger RV style wet cell battery from Trojan.
Solar South USA, Providing the Best in Alternative/Renewable Energy - About us
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Norm and Ginny
2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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09-30-2012, 04:16 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
Posts: 5,141
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederick L. Simson
Peter's Thread:
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What has happened with Peter? I've noticed his abscence. I think I still owe him for a 3 way light switch. Hopefully that is not the reason for his silence. He only gave me initials. Don't think homeland security would like mail addressed to an initial unless it had an LTD or INC behind it.
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09-30-2012, 06:00 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,710
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy in TO
What has happened with Peter? I've noticed his abscence.
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It hasn't been that long: Last Activity: 09-21-2012 09:46 PM It just seems that way.
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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09-30-2012, 06:26 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 5,112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
It hasn't been that long: Last Activity: 09-21-2012 09:46 PM It just seems that way.
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I'd send him a PM, that way he'd get it in his email.
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09-30-2012, 09:22 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Casita
Posts: 145
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Honda 03842
Photos would be appreciated. Where did you mount? Wire is routed via??? controller is mounted where???
Thanks,
LKG907
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10-01-2012, 05:14 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Solar Panel Mounts
I'll find the previous posts for our solar Installation.
The panels run from near the roof excape hatch forward to the front of the trailer.
The wires from the panel go thru the roof into the bathroom ceiling. The wires run thru a boat underwater fitting. The wires run to the closet over the front couch where a solar controller is mounted to the front of the closet. This is not too far from the battery'converter.
I'll seek out the pictures. I thought they were under Modifications/ Preparing a 1991 Scamp.
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Norm and Ginny
2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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10-01-2012, 06:11 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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New Solar Install
LK Gray,
The following is a link to New Solar Install and details our installation showing the panels taped to the roof, the thru roof connector and the solar controller. This post contains a lot of information about various approaches to solar panels.
If you have any questions about my installation just ask.
http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...l-48167-7.html
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Norm and Ginny
2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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10-01-2012, 09:19 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842
The following is a link to New Solar Install and details our installation showing the panels taped to the roof, the thru roof connector and the solar controller. ]
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Norm how has the tape install you used for securing stood up? Has it been subjected to any lengthly freezing periods or snow yet?
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10-01-2012, 09:42 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Carol.
Our panels have been on for more than a year and stood up without a single issue in varying weather situations.
The tape is designed for exterior use. I do not know it's low temperature spec but it has been below freezing a number of times. The panels have been covered in snow twice, have been in three small hail showers and tons of rain.
It also has seen a number of sand storms with rather strong winds, exceeding what one sees in our extensive driving.
Here's a link to the tape.
Amazon.com: Scotch Permanent Outdoor Mounting Tape, 1 Inch x 450 Inches (4011-LONG): Office Products
Others have mentioned other 3M Very High Bond Tapes that may be better.
I will sayIt is on a surface covered by Red Max Pro 3 and I did no pre-cleaning, I guess I just got too excited. Should have cleaned the surface first.
As well the fapels are not sitting flat, the tape is holdig them in a 'stressed' curved shape. As a result there's a small apart of force trying to lift them off the tape. No motion seen over time. Tape seems to work.
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Norm and Ginny
2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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10-01-2012, 03:15 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Casita
Posts: 145
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Eva
Honda03842,
Thanks for the link. Your photos, research & comments have been most valuable to me.
I'm seriously considering the Sunflex panel for my installation.
Rather than do the homework, I;ll just nquire of you. No sense doing the research if you've already done the homework.
So, how does the EVA (Ethyline Vinyl Acetate hold up to prolonged exposure to ultra violet light? (sumlight) It may not turn out to be a factor for me, as I store my Casita indoors.
Thanks,
LKG907
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10-01-2012, 04:14 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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LKG
I assume the EVA is the tape material. The way I used the tape between the panel and the roof, only the edge of the tape is visible. Since the tape's made for exterior use I'd be shocked if it was UV resistant.
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Norm and Ginny
2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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