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Old 01-19-2022, 11:12 AM   #1
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Dummy proofing a 13' Scamp

Hi all, I am going to be renting out my 70's 13' scamp . I have done some upgrades over the years, I have added a Propex heater under the main bed that works great, and a new stock 3 way fridge. I am looking for ways to make this very user friendly so I can do a quick hand off and get my renters on their way. The fridge is a little worrisome because the 3 way can be confusing and lighting it on propane can take a bit of work to make work.

What would you do to make a scamp easier for a newbie?
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Old 01-19-2022, 11:24 AM   #2
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I would look up the rental users manual that Uhaul put in their campers when they rented them to get an idea of what renters may need to know. Then I would think about why Uhaul gave up renting campers after just a few years. Then myself I would think about the horror stories a couple friends told me about renting out their campers, and then I would give up the whole idea. But for you the Uhaul manual may help figure out what info to provide renters.
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Old 01-19-2022, 02:39 PM   #3
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Any idea where to find the Uhaul rental manual?
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Old 01-19-2022, 02:56 PM   #4
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If you aren't going to use the trailer anymore, now or this spring would be a great time to sell. Make your money and be done!
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Old 01-19-2022, 04:35 PM   #5
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Any idea where to find the Uhaul rental manual?
The UHAUL manual is more than out dated and may not include the refrigerator.


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Old 01-19-2022, 04:38 PM   #6
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Hope you have deep pockets or require a very large deposit upfront
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Old 01-19-2022, 04:40 PM   #7
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Insurance is also going to cost more for commercial use.
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Old 01-19-2022, 04:54 PM   #8
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The UHAUL manual is more than out dated and may not include the refrigerator.


https://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/...do=file&id=166
Correct, Uhauls had a ice box. I was thinking the user manual may just give an idea what to tell renters. Not necessarily use the whole thing. I don't remember all that is in it.
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Old 01-19-2022, 11:37 PM   #9
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I'm well aware of terrible renters and insurance costs. I didn't ask about the logistics of renting, I'd really like some ideas on how to make a scamp dummy proof. I have a 13' and a 16' foot and have owned scamps for more than 10 years now, I'm not some kid with a get rich scheme, I'd just like to share one of my trailers with other people.
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I'm not some kid with a get rich scheme
Well, just carry on then. You don't need our input.
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Old 01-20-2022, 06:26 AM   #11
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Yep, good luck!
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Old 01-20-2022, 09:14 AM   #12
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I'm well aware of terrible renters and insurance costs. I didn't ask about the logistics of renting, I'd really like some ideas on how to make a scamp dummy proof. I have a 13' and a 16' foot and have owned scamps for more than 10 years now, I'm not some kid with a get rich scheme, I'd just like to share one of my trailers with other people.
Well, if you’ve been watching this site, you got some Valuable advice. They don’t add sugar coating to make you happy.
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Old 01-20-2022, 09:16 AM   #13
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I think that every attempt to rent small campers has resulted in generation of trashed units. The military tried it with Scamps renting to their own people and the result was a big sale of deteriorated units and they no longer do that.
Good luck with your endeavors if you go forward with your plan to rent your unit.
There are many ways to screw up a trailer from turning too tight at the gas pump and crashing into a bollard to improper loading and sway, backing into something while parking to leaving food and trash and attracting insects and smells.
I would think the best rule would be for the "renter" to make a deposit equal to the value of the camper and you refund the "rental" price when it is returned in god condition.
Basically a sale with a buy back clause if returned.
Still I think it is a bad Idea. I won't even let my kids use our camper! ( I know them too well...)
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Old 01-20-2022, 09:32 AM   #14
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I can think of a zillion things that could happen that you wouldn’t find out about. How about leaving a window open in the rain and water getting down into the insulation? Think about the care the Scamp needs and what it took for you to learn. Can you put it in a ‘Renters handbook’ and expect a renter to follow it? People rent so that they don’t have to do the long term stuff, ‘rent and go.’ No magical way to make sure you only rent to people who would take care. And the reason the insurance is high is because there are a lot of costly claims.. Using a Scamp isn’t for “Dumbies.”
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Can you put it in a ‘Renters handbook’ and expect a renter to follow it
The answers to many of the questions on these forums can be found in the manuals that come with the trailer. Why would a renter consider reading a manual when owners don't?
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dummy proofing a 13’ Scamp

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I'm well aware of terrible renters and insurance costs. I didn't ask about the logistics of renting, I'd really like some ideas on how to make a scamp dummy proof. I have a 13' and a 16' foot and have owned scamps for more than 10 years now, I'm not some kid with a get rich scheme, I'd just like to share one of my trailers with other people.
Everyone has given you what they think would be good advice. But looking at your query, it seems to me that with all your experience, and you can’t figure out how to ‘dummy proof’ your Scamp, you’ve answered your own question. There’s no way to prevent damage to your Scamp. If you had unlimited means, (Elon Musk?) maybe you could dip it in a plastic vat that would seal it. Otherwise. The reason it’s so popular is that it has a lot of features, (which also makes it vulnerable to a lot that could go wrong.)
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Old 01-20-2022, 12:52 PM   #17
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Generally...Would you rather buy a used rental car or a used one owner car?


I have owned a BUNCH of fiberglass trailers and I can tell you that a conscientious and knowledgeable user is essential to keep one in good shape.


I have also rented out housing.
Renters (in general) just don't care, what they lack in skill they make worse with negligence. Some even stoop to abuse!


What about insurance or a HUGH damage/ cleaning deposit?
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Old 01-20-2022, 01:15 PM   #18
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Dummy proof a RV? You can't dummy proof a RV or Travel Trailer. I once loaned out my utility trailer and got that back messed up. Just way to many STUPIDS our there!!!
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Old 01-20-2022, 02:20 PM   #19
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I'd start with a checklist, written in plain english. 1. How to hook up. 2. What to do before you drive off (mirrors, lights, brake controller!). 3. How to tow. 4. How to set up in full service campsites and "others." 5. How to pack up; what to do with waste water etc. A good renter with a financial interest would read and refer back. Contrary to popular belief you can fix stupid -- but it requires the teacher to be smarter than the student.
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Old 01-20-2022, 03:36 PM   #20
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We have been going to one KOA for several years for a rally. The previous campground owners bought one of those re-issue / reproduction Shastas to rent out. But it stayed in their campground, didn't move. They didn't allow cooking in it. They eventually learned that it was a poorly built camper and sold it. Then sold the campground. I've seen other ads for camper rentals, but the owner delivers the trailer to a campground, sets it up, and picks it up when the renter is done. The Uhaul we owned had repaired damage front and rear, probably caused by renters that had no idea about towing or parking a trailer. I too loaned out a utility trailer to a friend who jackknifed it and damaged the tongue.
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