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07-02-2013, 10:52 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Edgar
Trailer: Scamp
Michigan
Posts: 1
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HItch receiver for bike rack
I'd like to put my bike rack on the back of a 13-foot Scamp. Does anyone have advice about this?
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07-02-2013, 11:15 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Dave W
Trailer: Trillium 4500 - 1976, 1978, 1979, 1300 - 1977, and a 1973
Alberta
Posts: 6,936
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I have done exactly what you are proposing, but on a Trillium 4500.
It is not as simple as you might think. The receiver should be welded to the bumper, and a cross member ahead of the bumper. The amount of torque on a bike rack is surprisingly high. It will also increase the likelihood of trailer sway.
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07-02-2013, 01:01 PM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: 1996 Casita 17 Spirit Deluxe; 1946 Modernistic teardrop
New York
Posts: 5,474
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You can find a lot of controversial opinion on this subject. Dave is correct about the high torque issue, so you want a well built receiver and a good bike rack. I have seen a couple racks or receivers break off, and had one of mine bend. Bikes will tend to bounce on the rear of a trailer. A tongue mounted rack is much better if you can fit it. I've built a few rear mount receivers, generally bolted them to the bumper after reinforcing it, then to at least two crossmembers, or added a cross member so that I had 3 attachment points. There was available a bolt on receiver for the rear of some Scamps & Casitas, it might be found at Amazon.com . I have a rear rack on our Uhaul, but use the same rack on the tongue of our teardrop.
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07-02-2013, 02:29 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,531
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EdgarScamper
I'd like to put my bike rack on the back of a 13-foot Scamp. Does anyone have advice about this?
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Adding a receiver to the back of a 13 Scamp requires an extra crossmember being added to the frame behind the graywater tank.
The bumper and the crossmember will be adequate support.
For the 13 it is best to place the crossmember up between the frame rails and notch the bumper so that the bottom of the receiver is no lower than the bottom of the bumper. This is important to prevent reducing the angle of departure of the trailer so as to prevent striking the pavement when entering or leaving driveways, gas stations etc.
Still...rear receiver bike racks on trailers tend to be very rough on bikes that's why I chose a front mount....
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07-02-2013, 06:22 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,814
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Noah, of Orbital Machine works is a member here at FiberglassRV. His business includes manufacturing items for Casitas and Scamps, including rear receiver hitches. If you're a welder, this may give you an idea of what's needed. If you're not a welder, you can always order one!
Scamp Travel Trailer Products
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Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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07-26-2013, 02:38 AM
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Senior Member
Name: gailanneM
Trailer: Bigfoot 25' and previously, 17' Burro
Washington
Posts: 110
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Floyd,
I have been looking for a front/tongue mounted bike rack. Did you make yours?
-gailanne
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07-26-2013, 10:44 PM
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Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 32
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This a nice front mount for the A frame of any trailer, a local welder should be able to make one up for you.
Trailer tongue bike rack mod
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07-27-2013, 05:47 AM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: 1996 Casita 17 Spirit Deluxe; 1946 Modernistic teardrop
New York
Posts: 5,474
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In Daniel's link I found reference to a commercially made tongue mounted rack by Avika, made in Canada. I think I saw one on a trailer once and it looked good. Is that what you have Floyd?
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07-27-2013, 07:50 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 5,112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mary and bob
In Daniel's link I found reference to a commercially made tongue mounted rack by Avika, made in Canada. I think I saw one on a trailer once and it looked good. Is that what you have Floyd?
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Arvika web site Travel-Trailers
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07-27-2013, 08:31 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,531
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mary and bob
In Daniel's link I found reference to a commercially made tongue mounted rack by Avika, made in Canada. I think I saw one on a trailer once and it looked good. Is that what you have Floyd?
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Thank you , but no. Mine is made from a pair of old box fan legs and angle iron from discarded bed frames. I then bought two tray racks designed for use on roof racks and adapted them to my frame.They were placed facing in opposite directions in order to make the rack more compact. The height was determined by the contour of the trailer and getting clearance for the pedal and handlebar.
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07-27-2013, 08:33 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,531
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gailanneM
Floyd,
I have been looking for a front/tongue mounted bike rack. Did you make yours?
-gailanne
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Yes I did. you can use any creative design that you like as long as it is solid and at the right height to accommodate the bicycle trays.
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07-27-2013, 08:49 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Jo
Trailer: In the market
Wisconsin
Posts: 4
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With my tent camper I used a bike rack that hitched to the car and had a ball for the camper. I purchased the bike rack from business that installed the hitch on my car. Here is a link to similar product: Swagman Bike Racks - Towing 3-Bike Rack - Swagman 64601 - Bike Racks - Camping World
Since I am in process of looking for a fiberglass trailer I do not have experience with using my bike rack with a trailer.
Jo
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07-27-2013, 10:37 AM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: 1996 Casita 17 Spirit Deluxe; 1946 Modernistic teardrop
New York
Posts: 5,474
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Jo; there is another discussion about the negative effects of moving the ball back from the receiver like that swagman rack does. You may want to look into it. Floyd, sounds like you do things like me, use what material you have laying around. I prefer not to use old bed frame though, I'll go get what I need from a welding/ fabrication shop I did business with when I was working. The last shop I worked in was across the street from a company that did armored cars and such, so I frequently raided their dumpster for scrap steel.
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07-27-2013, 10:56 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,531
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mary and bob
Jo; there is another discussion about the negative effects of moving the ball back from the receiver like that swagman rack does. You may want to look into it. Floyd, sounds like you do things like me, use what material you have laying around. I prefer not to use old bed frame though, I'll go get what I need from a welding/ fabrication shop I did business with when I was working. The last shop I worked in was across the street from a company that did armored cars and such, so I frequently raided their dumpster for scrap steel.
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Actually, I prefer old bed frames for angle Iron, It is tougher than elephant butter...and it's FREE!. Just try and drill a hole in it! 
The scavengers are scarfing up all the steel from the trash now that it's $$$$ per ton. I buy stuff from Belsons steel when needed though.(mostly square tubing.)
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07-27-2013, 12:16 PM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: 1996 Casita 17 Spirit Deluxe; 1946 Modernistic teardrop
New York
Posts: 5,474
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The cutting & drilling issue is why I don't like the bed frame angle, but I do have a cutting torch.  The armored car shop finally had to cover their dumpster because of the scavengers. One night I was looking for some steel plate to mount some dock bumpers on a truck, found the perfect pieces over there, right size, rounded corners, smooth edges, just right! And then I tried to drill some holes in them  it was hardened steel, drill bit wouldn't touch it, had to torch out the holes!
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07-27-2013, 12:33 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 5,112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mary and bob
The cutting & drilling issue is why I don't like the bed frame angle, but I do have a cutting torch.  The armored car shop finally had to cover their dumpster because of the scavengers. One night I was looking for some steel plate to mount some dock bumpers on a truck, found the perfect pieces over there, right size, rounded corners, smooth edges, just right! And then I tried to drill some holes in them  it was hardened steel, drill bit wouldn't touch it, had to torch out the holes!
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I've read (on another forum) that you can drill bed frame if you first heat the spot with a propane torch for about 30 seconds to de-temper it.
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07-27-2013, 08:08 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,531
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mary and bob
The cutting & drilling issue is why I don't like the bed frame angle, but I do have a cutting torch.  The armored car shop finally had to cover their dumpster because of the scavengers. One night I was looking for some steel plate to mount some dock bumpers on a truck, found the perfect pieces over there, right size, rounded corners, smooth edges, just right! And then I tried to drill some holes in them  it was hardened steel, drill bit wouldn't touch it, had to torch out the holes!
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Good points, but it is strong, cheap, and it welds real nice!
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