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05-25-2014, 10:19 AM
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Member
Name: Bee
Trailer: Trillium Jubilee
PE
Posts: 68
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Old lights to LED?
Trillium Jubilee:
Looking to brighten my brake/driving lights....can I just switch out original bulbs with LED bulbs, instead of retrofitting the whole 'guts' of my tails lights?
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05-25-2014, 02:39 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dennis
Trailer: Scamp 16'
Utah
Posts: 258
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I replaced my bulbs with LED's from Superbright LED and really like them. They are much brighter than the filament bulbs. But I still may switch to the new Bargman LED taillights(when I get ambitious).
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05-25-2014, 03:17 PM
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Member
Name: Bee
Trailer: Trillium Jubilee
PE
Posts: 68
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I was just told that the LED may not be as bright.... Is that why several people have switched out the whole base plate with an LED panel?
Thanks
Bee
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05-25-2014, 04:36 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel
Posts: 1,861
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The external LED light fixtures I have dealt with are usually potted and sealed and offer better reliability. When you just replace a bulb you still have to deal with the bulb contact issues in external fixtures. Also new external light fixtures have to be meet DOT standards FWIW.
Eddie
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05-27-2014, 01:16 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Chris
Trailer: Boler
Alberta
Posts: 291
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I replaced mine lights with the round lights from princess auto, they go on sale for $20 each and work great. I does involve a whole new light, but was much easier than expected (Anything with wires is my weakness when working on these trailers).
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05-27-2014, 11:52 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Frank
Trailer: Casita
California
Posts: 260
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I don't understand why the push to change out the tail lights to led's The only time they are on is when you are towing and hooked up to the tow vehicle which has plenty of power to light two tail lights
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05-28-2014, 02:27 AM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,710
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I don't understand why the push to change out the tail lights to led's The only time they are on is when you are towing and hooked up to the tow vehicle which has plenty of power to light two tail lights
LED's are brighter and they also illuminate quicker, that 1/2 second difference may be all that is needed to avoid someone hitting you in the rear.In addition with all LED's on the trailer less 12v from the tug is being used to illuminate and more is available to charge your batteries.
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Never in doubt, often wrong
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05-28-2014, 05:47 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: 2018, 21ft escape— 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie
NW Wisconsin
Posts: 4,500
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I changed the taillight lamps in my 1999 Scamp to LEDs purchased at O'Reilly Auto . They made little or no improvement as far as visibility . It was not $32 well spent . Hopefully the newer LED taillights work as advertised
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05-28-2014, 05:57 AM
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Member
Name: richie
Trailer: Casita patriot deluxe (sold)
Virginia
Posts: 98
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I just changed the interior Lamps except the stove. No reason for me to spend money till bulbs burn out. or they become obsolete.
sparky1.
have a great Camping summer.
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05-28-2014, 07:17 AM
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Member
Name: Tim
Trailer: Aliner folding & Weekend Warrior toy hauler
Ohio
Posts: 68
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
LED's are brighter....
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That blanket statement is a common myth. Many LED lamp replacements are dimmer than the original incandescent. You need to know what you are buying.
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Currently own;
2009 Pontiac Vibe pulling a 2009 Aliner Sport = 22 MPG
1998 Ford E150 pulling a 2006 Weekend Warrior toy hauler = 8 MPG
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05-28-2014, 07:45 AM
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Commercial Member
Name: Ian
Trailer: 1974 Boler 1300 - 2014 Escape 19'
Alberta
Posts: 1,380
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As another option 4" LED taillights will fit right inside the original Boler "Hat" lens. I installed these in mine and used silicon to seal them into the lens.
They are very bright, this is what they look like.
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05-28-2014, 09:48 AM
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Member
Name: Lonny
Trailer: Bigfoot 25B21FB
British Columbia
Posts: 38
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My Honda Odyssey van had an issue with our trailers, when you plugged in the lights, it burnt out the adapter (Curt) each time. I had replaced it 4 times, until I changed the tail lights and clearance lights to LEDs (full LED units from Bargman). That cured the issue and was successful at towing both our Bigfoot trailers with lights on. It did not affect the brake or signal lights, but park lights pulled too much current on both trailers for the trailer light adapter to the Honda.
So from my experience, I will be changing to LEDs just to make it easier on my tow vehicle going forward. I also really like the bright lights much better than the old lights in appearance and color.
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05-28-2014, 11:49 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
Posts: 5,141
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bee in Canada
...can I just switch out original bulbs with LED bulbs, instead of retrofitting the whole 'guts' of my tails lights?
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You can, but the retrofit into the Trillium housing is so simple. It gives much better results than a simple bulb swap will do. It also resolves the problem of corroded bulb sockets since they are sealed waterproof units. If purchased on sale, cost is about the same.
Here is a how to do it thread with links to other threads:
http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...tml#post313004
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05-28-2014, 11:46 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Frank
Trailer: Casita
California
Posts: 260
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By switching to the LED I believe you masked the problem instead of fixing it. For instance a poor ground connection often causes arcing and increased current draw. If it burnt out the adapter that could also been caused by poor grounding. I am curious as to what "park lights" are.
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05-29-2014, 12:31 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Conrad
Trailer: Bigfoot 3000 & Barth "slide-in" truck camper
Connecticut
Posts: 958
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I have five trailers. I have replaced more than a few incandescent lights. So far about two years on some trailers, all the LED lights have worked faultlessly.
They are more expensive however if you buy these from the right source prices are more reasonable. I use Amazon and eBay. eBay is cheaper but take longer to arrive.
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05-29-2014, 12:34 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Conrad
Trailer: Bigfoot 3000 & Barth "slide-in" truck camper
Connecticut
Posts: 958
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Parking lights is the correct term for what most people call running lights. They were intended as lights to be left on when a vehicle was parked--but nobody does that.
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05-29-2014, 06:03 AM
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Member
Name: Lonny
Trailer: Bigfoot 25B21FB
British Columbia
Posts: 38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frankcfx
By switching to the LED I believe you masked the problem instead of fixing it. For instance a poor ground connection often causes arcing and increased current draw. If it burnt out the adapter that could also been caused by poor grounding. I am curious as to what "park lights" are.
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Well, that would be a good assumption, and one I initially worked with, however, after plenty of testing the light circuits on the trailer, and then finally working closely with the Curt factory, it became apparent that the amount of lights on the trailer drew more current than the adapter was designed for. Curt finally designed a prototype and sent to me (which worked) however, by that time, I had changed to the LEDs and never looked back. Curt even agreed that it was good idea to cut the amperage draw by going to LEDs.
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