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07-07-2011, 03:33 PM
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#121
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2009 Scamp 16 ft / 2003 Durango
Posts: 696
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I noticed that in the bottom shelf of the door. oops
I forgot to leave the door open.
Bill K
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Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Yes, the drip tray is a source of mold if not careful.
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07-07-2011, 06:15 PM
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#122
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Mold
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Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Yes, the drip tray is a source of mold if not careful.
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I think mold is everywhere, just a matter of degree. At least in this case the drip tray is easily removeable. I suspect our normal water pipes are lined with it.
Actually we had an extreme day of moisture, hi humidity today and I had the door almost continuously open until I left at 3PM. When I returned it was back to 36F from around 70 F when I left and ost of the moisture had dripped into my drip tray container.
On another site one of the members is a specialist in water systems for food business. It's a bear to deal with. I think mankind has seen so much of it over it's history we must be relatively immune.
Norm
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07-09-2011, 10:41 AM
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#123
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Ready for the Road
We have finished preparing for our trip to Prince Edward Island. The last things we did were to seal the front window and weigh the trailer.
We found during a particularly heavy rain that water would run down the window's face, slip by the bottom front seal and leak into the trailer. I stuck a flat screw driver between the seal and window on the outside and forced a small amount of 3M 5200 between the seal and window. Gradually walking the screw driver down the length of the window's seal. Afterwards I carefully removed any 5200 from the window. It rained last night, no leak. Three times will be science.
We weighed the trailer using our tire patch method. We hope to verify it on an official scale when we leave Wednesday. The hitch weight was weighed with a bathroom scale and I'm sure more accurate.
Our Scamp 16 weighs 2330 #s that includes a hitch weight of 195 #s.
Our new Goodyear Marathon trailer tires are rated for 3960#s, weight on the tires is 2135 #s putting us at 54% of trailer tire capacity at 50#s cold pressure.
Our Honda loaded to go with fuel, and passengers weighs about 3900 pounds.
Norm
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07-09-2011, 01:17 PM
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#124
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Senior Member
Trailer: Bigfoot 19 ft
Posts: 720
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I been following this thread and am truly impressed with your mods.
I hope to meet you at the Silver Spurs or some rally to get a first hand look at your handy work!
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07-09-2011, 01:40 PM
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#125
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Meeting
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jane P.
I been following this thread and am truly impressed with your mods.
I hope to meet you at the Silver Spurs or some rally to get a first hand look at your handy work!
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We are making a long loop of the USA and Canada beginning in the fall that will take 9-10 months. When possible we'll hit rallys and just maybe oure paths will cross.
After we return from Prince Edward Island I suspect we'll have some more mods to make, at least one will be an air conditioner and above that a clothes hamper, needed on these long trips.
Thank you for the kind words and safe travels to you,
Norm
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07-09-2011, 05:20 PM
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#126
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2009 Scamp 16 ft / 2003 Durango
Posts: 696
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Norm,
I sure hope that 5200 was a misprint, as it should have been 4200 if you ever want to get it off again.
Bill K
Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842
We have finished preparing for our trip to Prince Edward Island. The last things we did were to seal the front window and weigh the trailer.
We found during a particularly heavy rain that water would run down the window's face, slip by the bottom front seal and leak into the trailer. I stuck a flat screw driver between the seal and window on the outside and forced a small amount of 3M 5200 between the seal and window. Gradually walking the screw driver down the length of the window's seal. Afterwards I carefully removed any 5200 from the window. It rained last night, no leak. Three times will be science.
We weighed the trailer using our tire patch method. We hope to verify it on an official scale when we leave Wednesday. The hitch weight was weighed with a bathroom scale and I'm sure more accurate.
Our Scamp 16 weighs 2330 #s that includes a hitch weight of 195 #s.
Our new Goodyear Marathon trailer tires are rated for 3960#s, weight on the tires is 2135 #s putting us at 54% of trailer tire capacity at 50#s cold pressure.
Our Honda loaded to go with fuel, and passengers weighs about 3900 pounds.
Norm
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07-09-2011, 05:52 PM
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#127
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Thanks
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill K
Norm,
I sure hope that 5200 was a misprint, as it should have been 4200 if you ever want to get it off again.
Bill K
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Thanks for the tip.
It was 5200. I hope I don't have to get it off and that it produces a permanent seal. The only thing I really knew was that it does seal. The bond line is about a sheet of paper thick and shortly should be black like the rubber.
Fortunately it seemed to come off the window while in the application process.
Thanks for the info I'll go read the data sheet..
Norm
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07-09-2011, 05:57 PM
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#128
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Bill,
I read the data shet and it looks like this may not have been the correct product for the application.
Thanks
Norm
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07-09-2011, 08:55 PM
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#129
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2009 Scamp 16 ft / 2003 Durango
Posts: 696
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When it first came out I put some on the threads of my hull drain plug on my boat. I had to use a 3" breaker bar to get the plug out and thought I would break the thru hull fitting first.
Bill K
Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842
Bill,
I read the data shet and it looks like this may not have been the correct product for the application.
Thanks
Norm
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07-13-2011, 01:18 PM
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#130
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Trailer Weigh In
We went to the recycling center today and weighed our trailer and tow vehicle. The total weight was 6380 #s.
The trailer alone weighs 2230 #s not including a hitch weight of about 201 #s. The tongue weight has increased because we added an anti-swaybar. That puts us in the 2400 pound range fully loaded for 9 months of travel, lighter than our max goal of 2500 lbs.
We have a full propane tank and an almost full water tank.
Norm
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07-15-2011, 04:51 PM
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#131
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Learning From the Road
Now that we've been out three days we learned a couple of little things. We have a drip cup at bellow the end of the coil collection pipe. While driving the collection cup can bounce a little, spilling the 1/4 inch of water that typically collects in a day.
We solved this by cutting a piece of sponge and putting in the bottom of the cup. All water ends up in the sponge. We took two little leftover pieces from the sponge and use them to hold the cup in place.
We have been timing the making and taking down of the dinette/bed. It takes 5 minutes without hurrying. We also top our cushions with a 1.5 inch mattress topper. We have slept very well and find the depth adequate.
We've also decided to add a storage location for our computers. We typically leave them on the couch with a pillow on top. This worked well for travel but it seems we're always moving them around for this or that. If they had a place they wouldn't have to be moved.
We also need a storage location for the big bathroom items. To accomplish this we're adding a tray at the top of the bathroom's front wall for these items.
Definitely decided to add a screen door. They do have bugs in Maine though the temps have generally been cool, it's nice to be able to keep the door open without an invasion. Hope to see some clever screen door solutions at the rally.
Lastly the rear sliding window, when open, allows bugs to get in betwen the two pieces of glass. There needs to be some sort of wiper/stop between the two panes.
Norm
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07-15-2011, 10:28 PM
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#132
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: gave up!!
California
Posts: 238
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I'm new here but I just wanted to say that I have enjoyed this thread and the tips on it. Hope you two have a great and safe trip!
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07-16-2011, 10:40 AM
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#133
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp 16 ft Side Dinette
Posts: 253
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Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842
Lastly the rear sliding window, when open, allows bugs to get in betwen the two pieces of glass. There needs to be some sort of wiper/stop between the two panes.
Norm
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This may explain why I seem to continue to find more mosquitoes inside after an overnight. Thanks for sharing.
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07-18-2011, 07:24 AM
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#134
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Fridge Stuffing
Refrigerator Modification
Our Scamp 16 has a 3 way 1.9 cubic foot Dometic fridge. Before we left for PEI we made two modifications, one we added a cooling fan to blow over the coils and two, we increased the number of shelves from 2 to 4, that is when you count the bottom as a shelf.
The addition of the fan generally keeps the inside of the fridge in the mid to high 30's F when we're plugged in.
The additional shelves really allow us to fill the fridge without packing things on top of each other. We do not use an internal fan within the fridge.
There was some concern that packing it so full would mean some items would not stay cold or get cold. This turns out not to be the case.
We have noticed some change in temperature when we open the door, however if the temperature device is sitting on any cold item, the temperature hardly varies at all. Often when people put a thermometer in their fridge, they are measuring the temperature of the air and not necessarily the temperature of the items.
Our fridge always contain six cans of soda, a bottle of water, a quart of milk, a quart of half and half, a pound of butter, a pound of bacon and a dozen eggs. These items, once chilled provide a lot of thermal capacity, it takes a lot of warm air to raise their temperature. A full air exchange with the inside of the trailer has little effect on the items' temperature.
The temperature gradient from fins to items seems to cool everything down without the need of a cooling fan.
We continuously monitor the temperature inside the fridge, using the Walmart's $10 transmitting thermometer.
Norm
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07-18-2011, 07:27 AM
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#135
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Mosquitos
Sometimes I think they wait outside the door to get in everytime you open it.
However, not in our Scamp 16 but in other rigs I've seen mosquitos come down beside a roof vent crank handle. We also add screening to the inside of all vents like the fridge. We also block the hole that the propane goes thru to the hotwater heater. It only takes one to drive you crazy after lights out.
Norm
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07-18-2011, 07:47 AM
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#136
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Senior Member
Trailer: 24 ft 5th Wheel Shadow Cruiser
Posts: 117
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Been following all 10 pages of your posts,,like the on road & mods info very much...keep it going.. Ron
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07-19-2011, 04:40 AM
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#137
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp 16 ft Side Dinette
Posts: 253
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Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842
Sometimes I think they wait outside the door to get in everytime you open it.
However, not in our Scamp 16 but in other rigs I've seen mosquitos come down beside a roof vent crank handle. We also add screening to the inside of all vents like the fridge. We also block the hole that the propane goes thru to the hotwater heater. It only takes one to drive you crazy after lights out.
Norm
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I notice a lot of mosquitos hanging around outside the door and suspect they're attracted to the CO2 coming from the fridge vent. Of course that's when I'm running my fridge on propane.
When mosquitos get inside I try to hunt them down with a flyswatter before bed time. I never seem to find all of them. They like to hide behind the curtains.
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07-19-2011, 06:08 AM
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#138
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kdhanso
I notice a lot of mosquitos hanging around outside the door and suspect they're attracted to the CO2 coming from the fridge vent. Of course that's when I'm running my fridge on propane.
When mosquitos get inside I try to hunt them down with a flyswatter before bed time. I never seem to find all of them. They like to hide behind the curtains.
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That's probably a very correct statement. Those mosquito traps use CO2 from propane to attract the mosquitos. Maybe we need to just add the zapper part; we already have the propane. A zapper at both the fridge and water heater.
Norm
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07-19-2011, 06:14 AM
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#139
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Senior Member
Trailer: 16 ft U-Haul VT
Posts: 2,886
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I bought this gizmo at Walmart that attracts bugs at night. The light attracts them, and a fan sucks them in. In the morning, you dispose of them. It also acts as our night light.
I have not seen it at Walmart for a couple of years now, but I saw them in Cosco a few weeks ago.
Our FirstUp stops most of them. We prop it open against the door; few bugs seem to find the gap.
CindyL
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07-19-2011, 04:42 PM
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#140
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp 16 ft Side Dinette
Posts: 253
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Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842
That's probably a very correct statement. Those mosquito traps use CO2 from propane to attract the mosquitos. Maybe we need to just add the zapper part; we already have the propane. A zapper at both the fridge and water heater.
Norm
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Good idea Norm. Gotta get me a zapper.
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