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Old 10-24-2021, 02:25 PM   #1
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Scamp Tail light LED upgrade question

I need to replace a broken Bargman series 92 tail light in my 2017 scamp. I know that these are readily available and I can replace it with an original. But I would like to upgrade to a brighter LED. I see scamp now sells an LED tail light. Does anyone have this light? Is it good and bright? Are there better LED tail lights available elsewhere? What have any of you found that works well and installs easy. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
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Old 10-24-2021, 06:09 PM   #2
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Scamp's LEDs are a good choice but there are plenty of alternatives.


I would stick to surface mount for ease of installation and minimum shell
damage. Oh and don't forget to go with LED marker lights on the sides



Here is what I did and BELIEVE ME they show up like "Close Encounters"
I went out and took some rather poor pictures, they really are RED , but the camera looks over exposed or there is glare from my shop door... one is tail lights the other is with brake lights applied...
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I need to replace a broken Bargman series 92 tail light in my 2017 scamp. I know that these are readily available and I can replace it with an original. But I would like to upgrade to a brighter LED. I see scamp now sells an LED tail light. Does anyone have this light? Is it good and bright? Are there better LED tail lights available elsewhere? What have any of you found that works well and installs easy. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
The new Scamp lights did not have back up lights when I last looked.
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Old 10-25-2021, 10:48 AM   #4
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I kept it stock and just upgraded the bulbs to LED. Huge difference in lumens. There are now bulbs where polarity reversable/ doesn't matter. bit more $$ but no flipping wires. Think I went with Sylvania products. Don't forget a little dialectic grease on the bulb bases .
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https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=trailer%20lights
Yes, They are bright and affordable.
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Old 10-25-2021, 11:27 AM   #6
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Don't forget a little dialectic grease on the bulb bases .
Dialectic grease is non-conductive, so keep it off the contacts.
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Dialectic grease is non-conductive, so keep it off the contacts.
Even though it is non conductive, the metal to metal contact will connect and be ok. The reason for the non conductive grease is to seal the connection form water and outside contaminates. Use the Dialectic grease.
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Old 10-25-2021, 02:44 PM   #8
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Buddy of mine used it on my tail lights and 7-pin.
Couldn't get my lights working properly until I removed it.

It's intended for use in the rubber boot for a spark plug to prevent moisture from reaching the contacts.
But, go ahead...
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Buddy of mine used it on my tail lights and 7-pin.
Couldn't get my lights working properly until I removed it.

It's intended for use in the rubber boot for a spark plug to prevent moisture from reaching the contacts.
But, go ahead...
I understand that you had a problem when using this stuff however it has been widely suggested to be used in that way. Im thinking you did not have a strong connection between the bulb contacts and the socket contacts.
Go to UTube and ask-
can you use dielectric grease on vehicle lights
And it will take you to a video that shows how to use it.
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I just keep it away from actual electrical contacts. A simple solution.
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I have used dielectric grease on the 7-pin RV plugs for years, it has prevented corrosion and has never interfered with contacts.


One interesting tangent...
If silicone (dielectric) grease comes into contact with even a small amount of fresh silicone caulk, the grease will set up just like the caulk.
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https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=trailer%20lights
Yes, They are bright and affordable.
Mine did not make it though the second year.
Get a set of good name brand lights.
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Old 10-25-2021, 08:05 PM   #13
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grease on contacts

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I just keep it away from actual electrical contacts. A simple solution.
I have greased (dielectric or tune up grease) the contacts for years without problems.
However CONDUCTIVE grease will cause problems.
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Dialectic grease is non-conductive, so keep it off the contacts.
"There is a myth floating around that putting dielectric grease into electrical connections can cause them to fail because the grease gets between the metal. Thatís not true.
Although the dielectric grease does insulate the metal and wiring from external invaders, the contacts are tight enough to still maintain a connection, the grease is just displaced. That said, you do not need to squirt huge globs of dielectric grease into your connectors as you see in some videos out there."
https://www.thedrive.com/maintenance...lectric-grease
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Dialectic grease is a truly intriguing idea!
di∑a∑lec∑tic

(dī′ə-lĕk′tĭk)n.1. The art or practice of arriving at the truth by the exchange of logical arguments.
2. The process especially associated with Hegel of arriving at the truth by stating a thesis, developing a contradictory antithesis, and combining and resolving them into a coherent synthesis.
3. often dialectics(used with a sing. or pl. verb) The Marxian process of change through the conflict of opposing forces, whereby a given contradiction is characterized by a primary and a secondary aspect, the secondary succumbing to the primary, which is then transformed into an aspect of a new contradiction.
4. dialectics(used with a sing. verb) A method of argument or exposition that systematically weighs contradictory facts or ideas with a view to the resolution of their real or apparent contradictions.
5. The contradiction between two conflicting forces viewed as the determining factor in their continuing interaction.

[Middle English dialetik, from Old French dialetique, from Latin dialectica, logic, from Greek dialektikē (tekhnē), (art) of debate, feminine of dialektikos, from dialektos, speech, conversation; see dialect.]
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Dialectic grease is a truly intriguing idea!
di∑a∑lec∑tic

(dī′ə-lĕk′tĭk)n.1. The art or practice of arriving at the truth by the exchange of logical arguments.
I like a logical argument.
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Red face re: dielectric SPELLING

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i like a logical argument.
try this spelling folks, lol :-)
dielectric

die....not dia
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One other comment on converting from incandescent to LED lights: Make sure you have a good ground. A ground adequate to operate the old bulbs - both brake and running - may not be for the new LEDs. In fact, the brake light may look dimmer, like a running light, causing you to think you got the wires mixed up. Ask me how I know.
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One other comment on converting from incandescent to LED lights: Make sure you have a good ground. A ground adequate to operate the old bulbs - both brake and running - may not be for the new LEDs. In fact, the brake light may look dimmer, like a running light, causing you to think you got the wires mixed up. Ask me how I know.
How do you know?
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If you convert a BULB for TS/Brake Lights to LED, I always read you had to ADD resistors to TL assembly and/or converter FLASHER ON TOW to electronic? When you change fixture, you (MIGHT?) have to do this also???? I.e. the old MECHANICAL FLASHER must have a certain amount of CURRENT FLOW to work?
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