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Old 07-04-2003, 11:23 PM   #21
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Hi Lainey
That sounds about right.Those cracks are one of the biggest problems with 13ft Bolers.Do it right and you will be happy with many years of camping.:wave



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Old 07-05-2003, 07:41 AM   #22
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Visable to the naked eye?

Were these crack so tiny you couldn't see them yourself? so the check up was for your piece of mind and they found something? Now don't get me wrong I'm not saying it doesn't need done, I'm just wonder if I need an expert to see what I haven't found. I've been under mine, I've looked. :E I don't have a Boler so it may not be a problem on mine, just Janaparanoia talking. <img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3ed9abbebebdaflirt.gif/> but it's hard to get her to shut up once she starts. :E



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Old 07-05-2003, 08:23 AM   #23
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Jana, I'm right behind you in the paranoia department. Cracks in the frame?! Start...ing ... to ... hy...per...ven..ti..late..
now . .. .. . ....

Lainey - wanted to tell you your vent and cushions look great. Also, I bought the exact same brand and size of tires for the same reason. Keep me posted how yours hold up, and I'll do likewise.



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Old 07-05-2003, 08:28 AM   #24
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No, nothing that was completely hidden. I saw the first big crack, and it just drew my attention away from the rest I think. The other two are noticable to the naked eye. I think that as long as you've looked everything over very carefully, then you should be fine. The only thing not visible is that the cracks are at the top of the frame, so it's very likely that the top is cracked too (where the floor covers it)

Beverly - sounds like a good plan for the tires. I'll keep you posted.



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Old 07-05-2003, 08:35 AM   #25
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Jana, I'm right behind you in the paranoia department. Cracks in the frame?! Start...ing ... to ... hy...per...ven..ti..late..
now . .. .. . ....
Did you see Ches's pictures of his old frame? that was really horrifying. To think he pulled that home like that. He could have really gotten hurt. He probably knew and took care, but if he hadn't. (shiver) Okay taking big deep breath. breath out whhhhooooo. there that's better. :)


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No, nothing that was completely hidden. I saw the first big crack, and it just drew my attention away from the rest I think. The other two are noticable to the naked eye. I think that as long as you've looked everything over very carefully, then you should be fine. The only thing not visible is that the cracks are at the top of the frame, so it's very likely that the top is cracked too (where the floor covers it)
Visable I can handle. Thanks.



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Old 07-05-2003, 02:37 PM   #26
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one of the reasons the Bolers have so many cracked frames is the way they were designed. Look at the picture of Ches', it has all these bits and pieces welded together and the welds are usually where they crack.

The first year, possibly two, of Trilliums had frames like Bolers. Then they changed. Our Trill has a frame rail on each side that is continuous from the hitch point to the bumper. Built like a cars frame. Then there are cross braces between the two frame rails. The weak spot on these are where they bend upwards at the front of the trailer but one rarely hears about Trillium frames cracking.

So Jana, your Buttercup is a cousin of the Trill so you probably don't have anything to worry about.

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Old 07-05-2003, 06:29 PM   #27
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The frame on mine has one solid piece that runs front to back on each side. It was broken at the spots close to the bend though. The metal on the frames was very thin to begin with, so I guess for being outside for 33 years, it's not all bad. The front end of the frames do take a lot of beating as they are being pulled.



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Old 07-11-2003, 07:49 PM   #28
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Paint results

Here's a couple pictures of the painted ensolite. I used 1 coat of Bullseye 1-2-3 primer and 2 topcoats of General Paint Hi Performance 2000 acrylic coating. The ensolite seams are noticable, but I think they are less pronounced than seam tape (and now maintenance free!)
<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3f0f68cfe57f6ensoliteseamsafter.jpg/>
<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3f0f68e2704efelsoliteafter2.jpg/>
(Don't ask me why they don't look the same colour in the pictures?? Odd)



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Old 07-11-2003, 08:20 PM   #29
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Looking good.:thumb



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Old 07-11-2003, 08:22 PM   #30
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78 trill 1300 here

yes frames to crack mine from perviouus owners has all joints reinforced cross rails with side rails . keeping an eye on the ones i can see!



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Old 07-25-2003, 12:59 PM   #31
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A few more photos

Progress continues (slowly it seems)

Here's the rear benches and flooring:
<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3f217d4fb23a9flooringandrearbenches.jpg/>

The upper cabinets (doors painted)
<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3f217d67c5c23uppercabs.jpg/>

The front bench (1st coat) and the bunk bed railing:
<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3f217dbe5a952bunkbedrailing.jpg/>



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Old 07-25-2003, 02:49 PM   #32
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Very Obvious Changes

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Hello Lainey,
By the number of major repairs and changes you have undertaken in a short time I get the impression you are not afraid of hard work or a challenge! Your progress pictures show vast improvements. Hope you are ready before your expected departure date. Good Luck
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Old 07-25-2003, 04:38 PM   #33
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Hello Lainey,
By the number of major repairs and changes you have undertaken in a short time I get the impress of hard work or a challenge! Your progress pictures show vast improvements. Hope you are ready before your expected departure date. Good Luck
CHEERS:ola
Owen, yes, I'm a sucker for punishment! (But you should see what a mess the house has become during this time! :laugh)
Actually it turned out that my scheduled holidays conflicted with other's at my work (non-scheduled) so I've decided (ever so graciously ;) ) to postpone for 2 weeks - so it will be just perfect for me I think, and all the places I wanted to go won't be quite so busy by then too.



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Old 07-25-2003, 09:32 PM   #34
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Holiday Delayed

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Hi Lainey,
I am sure your co-workers think you are a saint. I know that you want everything done before you leave, but in years past i have been in many and varied places when I saw new ideas and little gadgets that I thought I had to have. Many an afternoon has been spent doing small changes and add-ons when it was too hot to travel too far or do too much. for example, I put on a new hitch jack in Post Falls, Idaho, replaced awning springs in Spokane, and repaired U-joints on the tow vehicle in Wenatchee, Wa.
"As long as you own it you will improve it" (and Love it)

PS.- I married my wife twentysix years ago, and it wasn't for her housekeeping skills.:kiss The boys love the time they spent with us, but they never complain if the house gets messy - does it matter? Enjoy the trip.:steer :steer
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Old 07-26-2003, 10:57 PM   #35
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getting ready

Nice job Lainey! You all make me want to find one to remodel. It almost looks like fun!



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Old 07-27-2003, 11:29 PM   #36
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Many an afternoon has been spent doing small changes and add-ons when it was too hot to travel too far or do too much.
Good point about working on things while travelling. I am planning on taking along the new door seal to install one afternoon, some sealant to cover any leaky rivets, and whatever else I can think of.

I am taking it in tomorrow am to have the welding done. That leaves new rubber base to go in, the final coat of paint on the front bench, sewing about 1/2 of the cushion covers, cutting the dinette foam, getting a spare tire & rim, and installing the bunk bed. Not too bad of a list I guess. (new curtains might have to wait :cry )



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Old 08-08-2003, 04:43 PM   #37
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Just posting a few more pictures. The new closet door (door was missing when I got it) (new window screen installed in background)
<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3f3426b281667newdoor2.jpg/>

The closet interior (new door seal in background)
I hung 2 fabric closet organizers over a piece of tubing threaded over the top of the closet rail. There is still room for tall things to go in along the right side and in front.
<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3f3426d34bb02closet2.jpg/>



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Old 08-08-2003, 05:01 PM   #38
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Hi Lainey
I like that closet door.:wave



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Old 08-10-2003, 09:04 AM   #39
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super job!

I admire your work and attention to detail....what you, Chester and the other rebuilders have done is first class. Any time someone challenges the integrity of glass I refer them to this site and how many 20-30 year old trailers are still goin' strong. Hope to make it north if my job goes south and see this gorgeous country, fun people and these cool Canadian rigs. (Sis lives in Brattleboro VT and would make a great jump off point.....)



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Old 08-10-2003, 10:25 AM   #40
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Hi Phil
Check with Larry Page--Larry and his wife Teddy stopped here on there trip to Alaska.They could give you some ideas on whats up here.:wave



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