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11-15-2011, 03:37 AM
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Hatlo's Inferno - Participation Joke
I remember a single frame comic strip from years ago, called Hatlo's Inferno. It consisted of the punishment an annoying person would receive in the hereafter.
I vote for computer programmers who have to use the programs they created without having the prior knowledge they have from having created the program.
Closely allied would be engineers having to repair/assemble/work with their designs without the prior knowledge they have from having created the design.
I had a 1956 Dodge panel truck that had left handed threads on the left side wheels lug nuts.
Any other candidates?
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11-15-2011, 06:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger C H
Any other candidates?
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Don't get me started...
I think industrial engineers should have to obtain a union card and Forklift operator's certificate. They need to apprentice with the Teamsters riggers and cargo handlers before they're allowed to design any commercial industrial electronics in plastic enclosures.
I have one new product that they don't provide for replacement enclosure parts for because they "didn't see the need..."
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11-15-2011, 06:52 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dave
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Designers of new cars should have to perform maintenance on them such as spark plug changes, oil changes, etc
Microsoft employees should have to rely on MS programs
Re: left hand threads on wheels for that '56 Dodge - Chrysler kept on doing that right up into the '70's on EVERYTHING they made - I recall laughing at a guy in a tire store snapping off 3 lugs on one wheel with an impact gun (Rattle wrench) that he had set to the "off" position and, of course, kept on TIGHTENING the lugs till they snapped!
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11-15-2011, 07:36 PM
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Member
Name: Noel
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British Columbia
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I have a recurring nightmare, where I wake up in hospital on a life support system which has a "Powered by Windows" sticker on it.
Noel
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11-20-2011, 10:36 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Herbert
Trailer: Boler
British Columbia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red-Dwarf
I have a recurring nightmare, where I wake up in hospital on a life support system which has a "Powered by Windows" sticker on it.
Noel
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That's funny
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11-20-2011, 11:18 AM
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Hi: herbert...This really happened to me. I was in outpatient services having a scope done when they asked if I wanted to watch on the monitor. Trouble is I saw TVO on the monitor which is our Provincial broadcaster!!! YIKES!!!
Alf S. North shore of Lake Erie
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11-21-2011, 05:19 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dave
Trailer: ,Bigfoot 25 foot plus Surfside 14 foot
British Columbia
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The guys who make the "hand grenade" trailer tires should have to USE them!
The guys who make the DEEP CYCLE batteries should have to rely on them for a week
Internet service providers should have to rely on their "service" to work
Postmen should get their paychecks by mail
The guys who make the "magic fuel mileage boosters" should have to cross Death Valley in August relying on the fuel mileage claims for their products
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11-21-2011, 06:02 PM
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Ya, I suggest that all you back yard engineers try to design something like a computer, write a software package, design even a tire. Or something simple like a toaster. Then go through all the steps and processes to get it into production.
When you complain about software, figure every byte is a keystroke on your keyboard. Can you type 5,000,000,000 characters without an error? How about logic errors, can you drive across around the country a couple hundred times using different routes and never make a wrong turn? When you can do these things you'll have a license to complain about engineers.
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11-21-2011, 07:20 PM
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I think there are few true engineers, but plenty of bench techs who call themselves engineers. I'm not an engineer, nor do I play one on TV, but I have stayed at the [brand] motel .
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11-22-2011, 01:14 PM
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As a Professional Engineer of 35+ years experience, I can't help but agree with some of the sentiments shared above. I still often quote my first boss's comments when he hired me.
Taking Engineering at university taught you to think. That's what I'm hiring. The moment you quote a professor or a textbook, I'll fire you, because you aren't thinking.
To many graduates in all fields seem to think they have been endowed with super powers that precludes the need to discuss with the customer what the customer really needs or wants. Unfortunately, university does not teach this functional, collaborative approach tyo problem-solving; the tech schools do.
Vic
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11-22-2011, 11:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Byron Kinnaman
Ya, I suggest that all you back yard engineers try to design something like a computer, write a software package, design even a tire. Or something simple like a toaster. Then go through all the steps and processes to get it into production.
When you complain about software, figure every byte is a keystroke on your keyboard. Can you type 5,000,000,000 characters without an error? How about logic errors, can you drive across around the country a couple hundred times using different routes and never make a wrong turn? When you can do these things you'll have a license to complain about engineers.
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Only electronics engineers.
I have earned the right to complain about structural and mechanical engineers.Many of which work well with field mechs and some don't.
I once asked a friend of mine, who had just accepted a superintendant's position, if he felt bad leaving his field for one in which he had no training or experience... He looked at me with a puzzled look on his face and asked...
What do you think I went to school for?
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11-28-2011, 12:38 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Dave
Trailer: ,Bigfoot 25 foot plus Surfside 14 foot
British Columbia
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OK- here's one more:
Designers of car interiors should have to get into a rental car (any brand of car EXCEPT the one they designed) at night, in the cold & rain/snow and actually FIND the headlight switch, wiper switch, defoggers etc in under 10 minutes, sans the use of a flashlight.
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11-28-2011, 10:43 AM
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Senior Member
Name: jen
Trailer: 1980 13 ft. burro
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I have frequently thought that the team who designed the 90s Chevy S-10 pickups did so with total contempt for the eventual users. Who decided to hide the gas pedal halfway behind that drive-train hump in the middle? Who decided that the incessantly squeaking window was acceptable? These people need to drive across the country in one of these trucks and see if they don't emerge needing a right hip replacement and a prescription for industrial strength xanax.
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11-28-2011, 11:21 AM
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Name: Dave & Kathie
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12-20-2011, 01:54 PM
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I had a 1956 Dodge panel truck that had left handed threads on the left side wheels lug nuts.
This of coarse was a safety feature in theory loose nuts would tighten when driven forward.
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12-20-2011, 09:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave&Kathie
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I had a similar cartoon hanging in my office for years, as a reminder to follow the KISS principle whenever possible.
No offense to engineers. I've been happily married to one for many years....
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04-17-2012, 11:59 AM
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Senior Member
Name: john
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my favorite quote. there is no problem that can not be solved through the judicious use of high explosives.
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05-01-2012, 09:57 PM
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I was an engineering technician
I also am a journeyman machinist. When I talked to the shop that was going to try to build my wonderful designs, I always told them that I would be happy to make any changes that would make it easier for them as long as it didn't change the original object of the design. I tried to KISS the design, but I didn't know all the tools nor the expertise of the persons going to build it.
Another engineer in our group when given a suggestion to make a design easier to make asked the machinist if he didn't know his job. He was not popular.
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05-02-2012, 04:39 AM
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Civil engineers at the DOT should have to ride their bike or walk to get to work.
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05-02-2012, 04:55 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Dave
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This one has been adapted many times to reflect the chain of command by changing the names but it may elicit a smile or two. I have no idea of its origins but it has made the rounds on the 'net a few times.
How It Happens
In the beginning there was a Plan.
And then came the Assumptions.
And the Plan was without form.
And the Assumptions were without substance.
And a darkness came upon the face of the land.
And the people spoke among themselves saying,
"This is a crock and it stinks."
And the people went to their Councillors and said,
"It is a bucket of dung and we cannot live with the smell."
And the Councillors went unto the Mayor saying,
"It is a pail of excrement and it is very strong,
such that none may abide by it."
And the Mayor went to the Provincial Member of
the House of Assembly saying,
"It is a vessel of fertilizer and none may abide by its strength."
And the MHAs spoke among themselves, saying to one another,
"It contains that which aids plant growth, and it is very strong."
And the MHAs went to their Members of Parliament saying,
"It promotes growth, and it is very powerful."
And the MPs went to the Prime Minister saying unto him,
"This new Plan will promote the growth and vigour of the
country with very powerful effects."
And the Prime Minister looked upon the Plan and saw that
it was good.
And the Plan became Policy.
And that my friends, is how it happens.......
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