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05-25-2021, 11:03 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Melissa
Trailer: Casita Spirit Deluxe
California
Posts: 1
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Bears and the Casita trailer
Hi there -
Just got back from a trip to the Big Pine area in the Eastern Sierra, and we had an encounter with a bear in the Casita. Woke to a scratching sound and realized a bear was trying to get into the refrigerator from the outside vent panel. Has anyone else ever experienced this? Luckily, I opened the door and scared it away, and there was no damage. But I guess from now on in bear country I will store food in the bear box as recommended. I thought I was a little safer in the hard-sided trailer, but I guess not! Bears do have an incredible sense of smell, and they can smell the food through the outside vents - so beware!!
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05-25-2021, 11:54 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Alex
Trailer: 1999 Casita 16' "Snufkin"
California
Posts: 101
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Good to know!
We are planning a 2 week camping trip to Eastern Sierras and I already read up on bears and storing food in bear lockers but your story makes it so much more real! Sorry it happened to you but many THANKS for sharing and keeping others aware!
Does anyone have any other stories/advice about camping in bear country, particularly with small children?
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05-25-2021, 09:16 PM
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Senior Member
Name: CalCop
Trailer: Casita
California
Posts: 221
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Wow that’s amazing !
I’ve camped in many bear country parks and never had or heard anything like this
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05-26-2021, 12:11 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Oliver
Posts: 713
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Crunchy on the outside, soft in the middle.
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Steve and Tali - Dogs: Rocky and our beloved Reacher, Storm, Maggie and Lucy (waiting at the Rainbow Bridge)
2008 Outlaw Oliver Legacy Elite & 2014 Outlaw Oliver Legacy Elite II
2022 Silverado High Country 3500HD Diesel 4x4
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05-26-2021, 08:19 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Dave
Trailer: 2013Escape 21
Iowa
Posts: 1,212
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Bears
Buy a cylinder of bear spray and a holster to carry it. Make sure it’s available and easily deployed. Understand how to use it.
Review the lyrics to “Tie me Kangaroo down”
Pay attention to the line “So we tanned his hide when he died, Clyde and that’s it hanging in the shed. Use the bear boxes, Camp near the host and ask them if they have been having any problems with bears. Camp away from sloppy campers. Bears can smell strawberry jelly and bacon grease from long distances. Make your teenagers sleep in the camper, not a tent with a loaf of bread for a pillow. Don’t get between a sow and a cub. They don’t poop in the woods if they can find a clearing.
Iowa Dave
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05-26-2021, 08:26 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Alexander
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1300
New Hampshire
Posts: 1,140
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Be careful when dropping your trash off at the dumpsters. Bears like to hang out around them since people don't properly dispose of their trash at the dumpsters (personal experience).
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05-26-2021, 08:29 AM
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Member
Name: John
Trailer: 17' Casita
Louisiana
Posts: 33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluemoon53
Hi there -
Woke to a scratching sound and realized a bear was trying to get into the refrigerator from the outside vent panel.
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In bear country; I would bring one of those. Or both !
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05-26-2021, 09:37 AM
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Senior Member
Name: carolyn
Trailer: 2005 casita sd
Michigan
Posts: 141
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Outlaw
Crunchy on the outside, soft in the middle.
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That's the folks living in an igloo. "Crunchy on the outside, soft on the inside". Funny!
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05-26-2021, 10:58 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Stephen
Trailer: Casita
Tennessee
Posts: 220
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My thought is that bears probably would be put off by a porch light coming on over the refrigerator. I'm swapping out the anemic one from Castia and fitting a floodlight - one for the front too.
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05-26-2021, 11:13 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Michael
Trailer: Trail Cruiser
Alberta
Posts: 825
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As an avid boondocker I've seen many bears, both blacks and grizzlies, over the years. I've gone outside in the morning to find muddy paw prints all over the exterior of my trailer from bears standing and leaning against my unit as they sniffed around the windows.
And make no mistake about it, if a bear wants in to your unit, it will happen. A bear doesn't need a door, they can make their own door any place they want too.
The only interest a bear has with your trailer or vehicle is FOOD. Bears have an incredible sense of smell and when they smell food they want it. The solution to this problem is obvious. No food odors, bears will have no interest in your trailer.
We have never cooked in our trailer. We do boil the kettle for coffee but never cook and never leave any open food inside unless we are there.
Bear sprays, air horns etc. may scare bears away temporarily but if they smell food they will be back. Eliminate the food odors, eliminate the bears.
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05-26-2021, 11:22 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Predom Prespol (N126N) Captain
Posts: 131
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Acquaintance who is a bear biologist considers black bears the most dangerous of the North American bears. You KNOW a grizzly or polar bear looks at you as dinner. Black bears are much more unpredictable so never let your guard down.
At Voyageur national park in Minnesota, the local town had open dumpsters outside the park and considered the bears who dined there a tourist attraction. (Really???) Park managers not impressed! That was 30 years ago - not sure what they do now.
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05-26-2021, 01:00 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Karin & Don
Trailer: 2012 Scamp 13Ft
Maine
Posts: 161
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jennifer Minogue
Acquaintance who is a bear biologist considers black bears the most dangerous of the North American bears. You KNOW a grizzly or polar bear looks at you as dinner. Black bears are much more unpredictable so never let your guard down.
At Voyageur national park in Minnesota, the local town had open dumpsters outside the park and considered the bears who dined there a tourist attraction. (Really???) Park managers not impressed! That was 30 years ago - not sure what they do now.
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When I was a kid, Yosemite had bleachers at the dumpsters and in the early evening we would all go down to see the bears (and cubs) chow down. There was a fence but I don't think anything kept the bears from walking around it. Karin
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05-26-2021, 01:14 PM
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Senior Member
Name: kenny
Trailer: 93 "Lil" Bigfoot 13.5'
Utah
Posts: 519
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New Orleans John
What are those devices you show ? one looks like a fence charge. the other a motion sensor alarm ? names, models, etc. ?
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05-26-2021, 01:34 PM
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Junior Member
Trailer: Burro 14 ft Widebody
Posts: 19
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beara
Last September in June Lake, a bear opened my locked camper shell and removed a tote with all my dog food. Was told by a neighbor that bears can open a car/truck door with their tongue. So don't leave snacks or food in the vehicle.
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05-26-2021, 02:23 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Michael
Trailer: Trail Cruiser
Alberta
Posts: 825
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[QUOTE=Jennifer Minogue;815433]Acquaintance who is a bear biologist considers black bears the most dangerous of the North American bears. You KNOW a grizzly or polar bear looks at you as dinner. Black bears are much more unpredictable so never let your guard down.
Jennifer, I would have to agree with your acquaintance, black bears are very unpredictable. Having said that, if you have something any bear wants they will likely take it. I've had many black bears enter my campsite and were quite difficult to chase off and usually came back.
I've had grizzlies pass through/alongside my campsite but were never interested in us or anything we had. On my last camping trip I drove up the side of a mountain to pick some raspberries for pancakes the next morning. When I got to the berry patch but before I shut off my ATV I noticed something moving in the bushes and watched to see a grizzly sow stand up. She was a young healthy bear and stood at least 8 feet tall.
Then I saw more movement in the bushes and out came two fat little cubs who walked toward the sow. Suddenly I realized I didn't really need any berries. As quickly as I could I shifted into reverse and backed away until I had room to turn around. As I drove away I could see the bear still standing where she was in my rear view mirror.
On level ground I can outrun any animal on my ATV but on a rough trail I wouldn't have a chance against the sow.
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05-26-2021, 04:51 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp 16 ft Side Dinette
Posts: 1,279
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If that is a Dometic Fridge; Food odors inside the box, should not be detectible at the outside vents. And that part of the fridge should be sealed from the inside of the trailer.
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05-26-2021, 05:33 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 2010
Posts: 5,185
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Forgot to take the feeder down. Oops
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05-27-2021, 06:59 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,925
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayne Collins
If that is a Dometic Fridge; Food odors inside the box, should not be detectible at the outside vents. And that part of the fridge should be sealed from the inside of the trailer.
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I was wondering the same.. Not only is the back of the fridge sealed from the cabin, but the fridge door has pretty tight seals, and cold items emit fewer odors. Of course few seals are perfect, and bears have an amazing sense of smell, but…
It’s possible that whatever smells were attracting the bear came from sources other than the fridge contents. Dry foods stored in unsealed compartments, maybe, trash with food residue, cooking equipment, or lingering cooking odors seem more likely.
In any case, that was uncomfortably close. I hope you notified park management. They do need to know about bear encounters so they can track patterns and provide appropriate warnings, and they may have some specific suggestions for the future.
Drought conditions never help. How are things up that way headed into summer?
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05-27-2021, 10:05 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Traveler
Trailer: Happier Camper
Utah
Posts: 239
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As a youth my now son-in-law went camping with a youth group. The leaders/drivers instructed them NOT to leave ANY food in the cars in the parking lot while they camped on an island (they took canoes to their campsites). When they returned to the parking lot a week later, the car my son-in-law rode in had the door ripped off. Seems he left cookies in the back seat. The driver was justifiably furious and son-in-law had to find another adult leader to ride home with.
As Mike_L said......."And make no mistake about it, if a bear wants in to your unit, it will happen. A bear doesn't need a door, they can make their own door any place they want too."
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05-27-2021, 10:28 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jann
Trailer: Casita
Colorado
Posts: 1,307
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluemoon53
Hi there -
Just got back from a trip to the Big Pine area in the Eastern Sierra, and we had an encounter with a bear in the Casita. Woke to a scratching sound and realized a bear was trying to get into the refrigerator from the outside vent panel. Has anyone else ever experienced this? Luckily, I opened the door and scared it away, and there was no damage. But I guess from now on in bear country I will store food in the bear box as recommended. I thought I was a little safer in the hard-sided trailer, but I guess not! Bears do have an incredible sense of smell, and they can smell the food through the outside vents - so beware!!
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So you are expected to unload your fridge and put it in lockers to get warm and spoil. That is insane. You can't unload all food from your trailer if you are traveling for a long time and put it in a locker. For us it would take 2-3 lockers most likely. If in a tent yes food into the locker as well as an ice chest if not inside. Food in a fridge should not smell outside if it is covered. We've camped all over Canada and the northern US with bears around and have not had any problems. I've never heard of emptying your RV of food.
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