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Old 05-16-2012, 02:47 PM   #1
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1973 eco 13'

This is from our local Craigslist

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Old 05-16-2012, 02:50 PM   #2
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Wow! What a price! They have not done their homework! Tempting for flippers.

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Old 05-16-2012, 02:59 PM   #3
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Yeah, I'm not in the position to get it right now or I'd jump on it!
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Old 05-16-2012, 03:13 PM   #4
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Should be posted in the referrals and it needs a new axle
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Old 05-16-2012, 03:15 PM   #5
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Wonder if it's as nice on the inside as the out?
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:39 PM   #6
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I'm calling scam on that one. image is the same as this one:
1973 13' Eco Travel Trailer | N. Little Rock, AR | Fiberglass RV's For Sale
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:23 PM   #7
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Same one was posted (twice) to the Chicago Craigslist too
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:50 PM   #8
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I saw the same trailer listed in Spokane. And a very similar one in Portland-Same price on both.
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:26 AM   #9
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Sorry if it's a scam. Even sorrier because the person got back to me via email. I'll sort it out -soon - and report back here. In the meantime feel fre to take it down, Admin.
Here is what "she" wrote back and my response.
Hi,


My name is Angela Hobart, and I'm emailing you regarding the camper that I have for sale. It is in perfect condition, with no need for any additional repairs. Flawless exterior/interior condition, no scratches and no dents. It has never been involved in an accident. It has a clear title with no loans or liens on it.I'm selling the camper because my 21's years old son died 2 months ago in a car crash. A drunk driver hit him and his fiancee. They were with her car on their way to his little brother's birthday. It was his camper and it brings me bad memories and that's the reason I want to sell it as soon as possible. The price that I'm asking is $1.900
Just let me know if you are interested and where are you located.


Thank you,
Angela

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Angela, I've heard this is a scam. If it is not, give me your contact info, and I will make sure the people in the fiberglass world know it is legit. If you don't contact me, I'll know it is a scam and will spread the word. (The ad has been reported in several areas' Craigslist already). _ Mike
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Maybe they're just willing to ship it.

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Old 05-17-2012, 09:20 AM   #11
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Thanks Mike, that kind of settles it doesn't it? It should have sold by now.
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:36 AM   #12
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I'll say this for it - the grammar of the response letter is better than I remember these things being. Well, except for "my 21's years old son". Nothing about shipping the camper from eBay's warehouse or anything especially crazy. Price is lower than I remember the scams usually being ($2900 mostly) - maybe they lowered it because of the economic troubles.
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Old 05-17-2012, 11:53 AM   #13
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Here's the latest I got from "her".-
If nothing else, this could be learning experience!

Hello,


Please let me explain to you the process of this transaction and you can decide if you want to proceed or not.
As I told you in my first email, I recently lose my son. I also got a new job and moved to Omaha,Nebraska in order to start over. I'm in Omaha but my presence won't be necessary because I prearranged the deal with Amazon. The camper is in Omaha at the shipping company, ready to be delivered. The deal includes free delivery and it will arrive at your address in 3 days. You will have 5 days to test it and inspect the camper prior to making any purchase and if by any reason you find something you don't like about it you can send it back at my expense. If you want to make this deal I need the following details from you: full name, address, and phone#.
Once I have your info I will forward them to Amazon to get things started. Amazon will contact you shortly after they have the details with all the information that you need to complete this
deal and you will also have proof that I am covered by them and a legitimate seller. Waiting for your email with the requested details.


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Old 05-17-2012, 12:07 PM   #14
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Yep, major scam!
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:44 PM   #15
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Oh... It's in AMAZON'S warehouse, not eBay's...

That's soooooo much more legit.

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Old 05-17-2012, 10:13 PM   #16
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Gets "ALMOST" tempting to have a bit of fun with those types .

Sorta seems like there has just gotta be a way to ..... <_<<_<
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:57 PM   #17
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I've got even a better response today and can't believe there is not some way to have this piece of crap can't be arrested after what they told me.,,,here goes just so everyone is warned before hand these people have "NO" heart at all .......And should be locked up with the worst of mankind.........This is what they sent me and I'm a Air Force Vet. which really Pisses me off..........I'm still playing thier game just to see how far these a$$holes are going to go.... parden my expression...Here's what I got back .

QUOTE....

Hello,
My name is Angela Hobart, I am emailing you regarding the camper (1973 ECO Travel Trailer)that I have for sale.
The camper is in perfect condition , with no need for additional repairs, no scratches, dings, special marks whatsoever, never been involved in any accidents. I have a clear and clean title for it , no liens or loans ready to be signed and notarized on your name Ö
Iím selling my sonís camper , who died in Iraq two months ago and I want to get rid of it asap because the sight of it makes me think of him often and often and the pain is too great . Put yourself in my shoes and youíll do the same (selling the camper of your dead son, no offence) !!!
As you probably noticed , the final price that i want for this camper is $1900 if you will buy it today or tomorrow .
Let me know where are you located........................................... ..







Here's my response hoping I can narrow these (just let me say "NOT" human beings) down......(wish I could use curse words) ...


Angela..


CONSIDER IT SOLD......I'm a vet and located in North Alabama and just let me say I'm VERY sorry for your son's death and I can't imagine the grief you must be under at the present time.......I have 3 chrildren and can't for the life of me imagine the lost you must be feeling........... if you need more time I can understand that fully..I'm very much interested in your camper and would really like to purchase it if possible..As far as the price consider it sold.....Can I get your phone number so we can work out the payment..............
..Thanks Randy










Now lets see if they will answer...the greedy turds......to tell the truth I'm willing to offer $2200.00 ......Hell I'm willing to offer ever more......If no response by tomorrow evening I'm going to offer $3300.00 ..who knows before it's over might even go as much as $10,000 on the sucked....



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While I cannot in any manner whatever condone illegal activities, I must confess that it has crossed my mind that there must be SOME way to turn it around and extract a charitable donation from these sociopaths
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Old 05-18-2012, 04:27 PM   #19
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I'm about ready to set the hook...got this today from the scam artist....They are a real piece of crap.....

Hello again,

Please let me explain to you the process of this transaction and you can decide if you want to proceed or not.
As I told you in my first email, I recently lost my son. I also got a new job and moved to Omaha,Nebraska in order to start over. I'm in Omaha but my presence won't be necessary because I prearranged the deal with Amazon. The trailer is in Omaha at the shipping company, ready to be delivered. The deal includes free delivery and it will arrive at your address in 3 days. You will have 5 days to test and inspect the trailer prior to making any purchase and if by any reason you find something you don't like about it you can send it back on my expense. If you want to make this deal I need the following details from you: full name, address, and phone#.
Once I have your info I will forward them to Amazon to get things started.Amazon will contact you shortly after they have the details with all the information that you need to complete the payment and you will also have proof that I am covered by them as a legitimate seller. I tried to cover all the details you may need.Waiting for your email with the requested details.I really need to sell it asap.Hope you understand.

Thank you
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We got same reply SCAM!
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