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Old 05-07-2022, 10:35 AM   #21
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I have a 2018 outback 3.6 l . Towing a Casita . I installed some spring helpers. Doesn't effect ride with no load but reduced sag when towing. Easy install. Recommend joining the Subaru owners forum. Vehicle specific info . . Was a good resource setting up my outback. https://www.etrailer.com/Vehicle-Sus...saAgiTEALw_wcB
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Old 05-07-2022, 10:50 AM   #22
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Hey, if u want to unload some of the weight at the front just throw some weight in the back since your trailer is essentially a large teeter totter. Is that genius or what? 😆
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Old 05-07-2022, 02:59 PM   #23
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watch this video, it clearly shows the relationships between tongue weight and sway as well as the effect of adding weight to the rear of the trailer.

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Old 05-08-2022, 06:55 AM   #24
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Hey, if u want to unload some of the weight at the front just throw some weight in the back since your trailer is essentially a large teeter totter. Is that genius or what? ��
It can work as long as you don’t go overboard and create a rear weight bias, as shown in Martin’s video. But it’s a crude way to solve the problem, since it sometimes means various heavy items stowed loosely on the rear bed, where they can shift in transit and get in the way during meal stops.

And this. Weight concentrated at the ends of the trailer, even when properly balanced with at least 10% tongue weight, creates a high polar moment of inertia, which makes for poor handling. Every time you turn, you’re throwing that weight in motion, and it will want to keep moving.

For best handling, it’s better to have weight centered low and over the axle. That can be hard to do in a travel trailer without cluttering the center aisle with gear, but it’s a goal to work toward as you tweak the loading.

I’ve been down that road, only the other way. We used to carry bikes on the back of our Scamp, and we put a bunch of heavy stuff forward to offset and increase tongue weight. Later we found a way to stow the bikes securely inside the trailer over the axle, and the handling of the trailer improved significantly (even with a bit less tongue weight).

One practical way to reduce tongue load and center weight is to move the battery(-ies) to an inside compartment. That generally means upgrading to AGM or lithium and re-routing wiring, so there’s cost involved. Maybe something to consider in the future if there’s a suitable location in the OP’s Parkliner.

Anytime you make a significant change in how you load your trailer, you should weigh trailer and tongue to make sure you still have adequate forward weight bias.
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Old 05-08-2022, 07:03 AM   #25
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When I pulled a Scamp 19 with a 91 S10 which was rated for 3500# I added Airlift bags to rear axle. Solved problem and with the onboard compressor speeded up loading and unloading trailer from truck.
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I hadn't thought about air bags or spring helpers. They won't change the weight load on the rear axle, but I'm wondering whether they will correct the negative camber that typically results from a heavy load on an independent rear suspension and causes inside tire wear?
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Old 05-10-2022, 08:46 AM   #27
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Just my 2 cents on the subject. I concur with the original post, a conventional wdh adds considerable weight to the ball hitch area. I run without wdh or sway bar. I pay attention to loading and use the shortest ball mount possible, reducing the leverage the trailer has on the tow vehicle. Wdh set ups usually require longer ball mounts. When I tried a 4” longer ball mount to gain clearance in the rear, my ride definitely suffered, with excessive bounce when hitting bumps .
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Old 05-10-2022, 11:11 AM   #28
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I pay attention to loading and use the shortest ball mount possible,........... When I tried a 4” longer ball mount to gain clearance in the rear, my ride definitely suffered, with excessive bounce when hitting bumps .
When you're saying "shortest" and "longer" are you referring to the "rise" or "drop" of the ball hitch, or are you referring to the length the hitch sticks out from the the receiver?

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Old 05-14-2022, 04:05 PM   #29
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When you're saying "shortest" and "longer" are you referring to the "rise" or "drop" of the ball hitch, or are you referring to the length the hitch sticks out from the the receiver?


I am referring to the horizontal distance between the hole that the ball attaches to and the hole that the locking pin passes through. In other words, the length the hitch sticks out from the receiver. The longer that distance is, the further back the 2" ball is from the rear axle. As that distance increases, the leverage exerted by the trailer tongue weight on the rear of the vehicle increases. In my case a few inches made a noticeable difference.
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Old 07-28-2022, 10:42 AM   #31
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Thanks Bill. Yes, I was considering looking into something like these. But we've had a big change of plans and are selling our ParkLiner (see classified ads here) and are ordering a Roadtrek Class B camper van. About the same amount of space and hopefully less stress on busy highways and narrow, dirt roads.
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Old 08-18-2022, 06:32 PM   #32
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Spring helpers

I tow with a 2018 outback 3.6 . Noticed a slight sag when hooked up. Used a tounge scale and well within specs of ball weight. Simplest solution I found was spring helpers. Doesn't effect unloaded ride but adds beef to springs when loaded. Been using for two years with no issues.
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