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05-24-2016, 07:06 AM
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Member
Name: Dawn
Trailer: Scamp
New York
Posts: 70
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Double frame?
After posting a question yesterday about squeaking & creaking while towing, I decided to give our frame a thorough inspection. I didn't get very far before I noticed my 1992 Scamp frame seems to look different than most...it's reinforced at the "A" with a double frame. It appears that it's supposed to be that way, as it continues throughout the entire underside & I can't see how it would function without it. Do I have a unicorn here? W as it previously modified?
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05-24-2016, 09:18 AM
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: '71 Boler, '87 Play-Mor II
Deep South
Posts: 1,261
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NedMac
After posting a question yesterday about squeaking & creaking while towing, I decided to give our frame a thorough inspection. I didn't get very far before I noticed my 1992 Scamp frame seems to look different than most...it's reinforced at the "A" with a double frame. It appears that it's supposed to be that way, as it continues throughout the entire underside & I can't see how it would function without it. Do I have a unicorn here? W Attachment 95449Attachment 95450as it previously modified?
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The area where that is reinforced is a common stress area and known to develop cracks in the frame as noted on many posts. One here had the frame break while trailer was in tow and had to have it repaired. Looks like a PO took preventive measures to avoid any problems.
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05-24-2016, 09:39 AM
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Member
Name: Dawn
Trailer: Scamp
New York
Posts: 70
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Thanks John, I do know of that common problem. So do you think they just added those two "arms" that extend out under the A? It looks like the original A frame goes underneath the length of the camper & then there's another frame welded on below that, to which the new arms are connected
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05-24-2016, 09:52 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet (want 13 ft fiber glass
Posts: 2,316
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NedMac
Thanks John, I do know of that common problem. So do you think they just added those two "arms" that extend out under the A? It looks like the original A frame goes underneath the length of the camper & then there's another frame welded on below that, to which the new arms are connected
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That is another known weak area prone to fracture, so it looks like you purchased from a proactive owner......congratulations.
Dave & Paula
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05-24-2016, 09:55 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Sorry to say thats a Unicorn!
Not found on an unmodified Scamp.
As was mentioned the tongue to main frame area can develop stress cracks and fail (it btw happens on Bolers as well). It is not uncommon to see a repair done in that area on older trailers but how yours has been repaired is not something I have seen previously. I would have it checked over by a competent repair shop.
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05-25-2016, 07:16 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,960
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I'd say yours is now a bit heavier than a stock Scamp as well as stronger. Might be nice to know how much heavier... unless you're towing with a truck.
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05-25-2016, 07:23 AM
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Member
Name: Dawn
Trailer: Scamp
New York
Posts: 70
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Good thought, Jon. Extra weight isn't a problem, but I should take it to get weighed out of curiousity.
I would love to see what the underside of someone else's 16' looks like!
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05-25-2016, 07:54 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Gordon
Trailer: 2015 Scamp (16 Std Layout 4) with '15 Toyota Sienna LE Tug
North Carolina
Posts: 5,156
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2015 model: (Trolling motor type socket and sway bar ball are owner mods)
Notice the apparent difference in the body, where the OP's seems to have a double dip, the first where the frame is, and a second one further to starboard side.
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05-25-2016, 08:42 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon in AZ
I'd say yours is now a bit heavier than a stock Scamp as well as stronger. Might be nice to know how much heavier... unless you're towing with a truck.
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Whether or not its actually stronger depends greatly on how it was actually attached.
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05-25-2016, 08:44 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gordon2
2015 model: (Trolling motor type socket and sway bar ball are owner mods)
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Gordon's 2015 model is identical on the under side to my 1992.
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05-25-2016, 10:27 AM
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Member
Name: Dawn
Trailer: Scamp
New York
Posts: 70
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carol H
Whether or not its actually stronger depends greatly on how it was actually attached.
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Well I wouldn't think it would make it weaker, at least I haven't found any indication that a repair was done to the original frame, or any cracks. It simply looks like framing was welded on & connected to the open end of the frame above the door area (same on the other side). Not that I have any experience in welding, but it looks well done (in the sense I would have guessed it was supposed to be like that).
I appreciate the picture Gordon!
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