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Old 01-31-2014, 10:51 PM   #1
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Here's what can happen when you don't pay attention to towing limits! Screwed up traffic all over our area for a couple hours this afternoon...

http://twitter.com/wspd1pio/status/429381167570100224
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Old 02-01-2014, 06:33 AM   #2
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You see and hear about this all the time, when will people learn? Usually when it is too late! Hope it was just the drivers pride that was hurt.
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Old 02-01-2014, 12:43 PM   #3
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How do you know they exceeded the Jeeps weight limits? If that vehicle has a V8 it would be rated to tow 7200 lbs, probably a good bit more than that trailer weighs.

Far more likely the driver did something stupid.
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Old 02-01-2014, 01:51 PM   #4
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How do you know they exceeded the Jeeps weight limits? If that vehicle has a V8 it would be rated to tow 7200 lbs, probably a good bit more than that trailer weighs.

Far more likely the driver did something stupid.
Same thing occurred to me. That looks like a classic "can't drive" event. Probably panic braking, or no brakes hooked up on the trailer at all, or sway caused by improper loading...who knows?

Certainly not the guy that posted the original "tweet", or he'd have backed it up with some details.
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I think Micky missed a few of Lucy's rocks.
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Old 02-01-2014, 03:09 PM   #6
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The skid marks clearly show the tail wagging the dog. Pulled the tow vehicle right along with it. Must have a good hitch, wonder what make?
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I think Micky missed a few of Lucy's rocks.
Did you mean Desi?
Took me a while to figure out what you were referring to.
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Did you mean Desi?
Took me a while to figure out what you were referring to.
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Yep. I think his movie name was Micky, could be wrong.

Okay, checked your link, it was Nicky.

Micky was his m-i-l's name for him on I love Lucy.
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Old 02-01-2014, 03:39 PM   #9
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The skid marks clearly show the tail wagging the dog. Pulled the tow vehicle right along with it. Must have a good hitch, wonder what make?
T'other thing you can see in the pic is that the whole rig did a complete 180. See the freeway signs in the background? Both tug and tow are now facing against the flow of traffic!
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Using the ladder as a gauge, it appears that the trailer body is about 25 feet. Easily over the tugs V8 7200 lb limit if it is a toy hauler full of toys. Possibly under the limit if not. Too bad we don't have that info.

But I agree with those that speculate (which is all we can do without more info) that likely it was a badly loaded trailer, light on the hitch weight. Overloaded or not, that is a recipe for disaster.

I can't tell but the damage to the tug doesn't look that bad. I mean it doesn't look like it rolled or anything.
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Son-in-law just rented a flatbed car trailer to move his sedan. Rental agency(a national company), didn't even hook up the lights or check the brakes on the trailer. I was riding with him when he took the trailer back, and wouldn't go until I made sure everything was hooked up. Car=3,000+, trailer 1,000+. So over 2 tons with no brakes or lights!!!!
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If it's a factory OEM hitch, it is under rated. The one that came on my 90 XJ was rated over 5000 / 500 TW. I'm betting that it was due to sway, brakes and driver experience / knowledge. I have seen some Darwin Award Candidate's towing much less just driving.
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How do you know they exceeded the Jeeps weight limits? If that vehicle has a V8 it would be rated to tow 7200 lbs, probably a good bit more than that trailer weighs.

Far more likely the driver did something stupid.
Denny, I agree. There are a number of towing articles on the Grand Jeeps and they get very good reviews as TV's. Would luv to see what hitch setup it had.

We are also seeing old school front fender mount mirrors. That may be an indication the connection system was old school /not the best too.
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Using the ladder as a gauge, it appears that the trailer body is about 25 feet. Easily over the tugs V8 7200 lb limit if it is a toy hauler full of toys. Possibly under the limit if not. Too bad we don't have that info.
I have a Trailer Life mag from 10 years ago. They did a towing test on a Jeep/Grand towing a 25' Sportsman TT with a rear slide out. They praised the way it handled and performed.
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Here is another incident with a smaller Jeep towing a full height single axle TT. Note: no evidence of a WDH.
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It would be really nice to see how these trailers were loaded. If the trailer has something like a 4 wheeler parked tight against the rear door, balance is going to be WAY off.

I was almost sideswiped by someone driving a pickup and towing a wide trailer. The trailer was shaped like it could fit a pair of snowmobiles side by side. The trailer was much wider than the truck. The driver was driving like he didnt have a trailer at all. Between the speed, and the fact that the driver forgot he needed to check his mirrors occasionally, this guy was an accident waiting to happen. In both of these photos, the accident may be reduced to somebody "driving like and idiot."

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Derek, I had a similar incident. I was riding my bike (pedals) on the inside of a turn. A pickup towing a long landscape trailer came from behind and passed by.

The truck was a few feet to my left as it went by but the trailer was inches away. The jerk got the middle finger pointing skyward. Rude, but I couldn't help myself.
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Derek, I had a similar incident. I was riding my bike (pedals) on the inside of a turn. A pickup towing a long landscape trailer came from behind and passed by.

The truck was a few feet to my left as it went by but the trailer was inches away. The jerk got the middle finger pointing skyward. Rude, but I couldn't help myself.
We had someone die in a nearby incident similar to this. A cyclist was sideswiped by a trailer. The tow vehicle was pulled by a city worker.

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It was a state trooper who was at the scene who posted the tweet, so I tend to believe what he said. It was definitely the driver doing something stupid, whether that was ignoring tow limits or something else I can't say. It looked like a toy hauler in other photos, but I'm not certain, either way it looked like a very long trailer. I was not intending to pick on Jeeps, I just thought the photo was relevant to towing.

No one was hurt!
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It was a state trooper who was at the scene who posted the tweet, so I tend to believe what he said.
Well...he only "said it" after someone named "Hillary" suggested it when commenting on his first tweet about the incident... Link.

I just don't see how "overtowing " can be presumed to be the cause of that mess- since the whole rig came to rest completely reversed in the lane of travel, there had to be some sudden hard braking/bad angles/massive unchecked motion by the trailer involved. Still spellin' "no trailer brakes" to me.

Even a Ford 350 could end up lookin' like that in the right conditions.
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