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Old 09-22-2023, 04:15 PM   #1
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So much Rust on 11yo Scamp Trailer!

We are the owners of a 2012 16' Scamp and it has been ours for the past 4 years and we are getting VERY concerned with the amount of rust showing up on the trailer & axel components.

When we purchased it there was visible rust on some areas of the trailer and we treated that with a "rust treatment" paint that was recommended by other RVers. That seemed to take care of it for a bit.

This summer we did a close inspection under the Scamp and noticed a concerning amount of rust and expansion of the component that attaches the axel to the frame on the passenger side: see picture

I have reached out to several RV mechanics, welders and trailer shops and we are unable to find someone willing to work on this...so any guidance would be appreciated!

The people we did talk to suggested it was time to "retire" the RV and it was no longer suitable for long trips. (We purchased a Scamp because they are known for being on the road for 20+ years!! If we can get this fixed I am sure she has a lot more travel left in her)

I have reached out to Scamp for guidance & am waiting for their response.

Do you know what this part is called?
Do we need to replace the whole axel to fix this component?
Is this normal on an 11 y/o Scamp? I thought they were known for longevity!?!
Do you know any good repair shops anywhere from the NJ area down to Florida (we will travel to have this taken care of!)

Thanks! - Laura, Patrick & "Doris" The Scamp
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Old 09-22-2023, 10:07 PM   #2
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Are you sure of the year? Check the vin.

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We are the owners of a 2012 16' Scamp and it has been ours for the past 4 years and we are getting VERY concerned with the amount of rust showing up on the trailer & axel components.
Vin lookup guide:

https://www.scamptrailers.com/ask-sc...identification
That's way to soon to be that rusty unless it was on winter roads and never washed. (Or it as stored near the ocean.) Will Scamp sell you a new frame?
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Old 09-23-2023, 08:43 AM   #3
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I would advise anybody who owns a non aluminum frame trailer to fluid film the frame at least every other year.
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Old 09-23-2023, 09:04 AM   #4
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I don't know if this is in your area, but I had Amherst Welding in MA chop out our ancient (1977 Scamp 13') rusty axle (and owner-added lift box) and reinforce the are, add a new lift box and weld-in a new Flexiride axle.

They also noticed that the coupler area was bent so they chopped that our and welded in a new 2" coupler.

They were not in the LEAST intimidated by an old rusty camper. They said these are the kinds of jobs they LIKE to do.

https://www.amherstwelding.com/

Also, I got my axle from Canadian Axle. Shipped to MA was cheaper than an axle from the Scamp factory shipped to me.
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Old 09-23-2023, 02:03 PM   #5
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Smile I think we found an RV welder / Body Shop in PA

Thanks for the suggestions, everyone!

Last night (out of frustration) I got on Google Maps and sent a message to every RV repair shop and welder in a 2 hour radius ...and finally got 1 reply from a bigger shop in PA that does welding and body repair on RVs (Valleybrook RV). They will reach out to us to schedule an assessment as they think they will be able to replace the brackets.

I think the scope of this is beyond what a smaller operation could manage & for sure beyond what we have the skills to handle.
We are really shocked that there could be this much deterioration of such a key part of the trailer in 11 years - especially because we really try to keep up with regular cleaning and maintenance.

Lessons learned here- If we ever get another trailer we will immediately get a rust-prevention coating put on & keep very close tabs on it! Maybe even find a way to store it indoors for more protection.

I will keep you updated on any progress & feel free to keep the suggestions coming Thanks!!
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Old 09-23-2023, 02:10 PM   #6
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humm that makes me think- the first owners did mention they did some colder weather camping...I wonder if exposure to road salt started this process
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Old 09-23-2023, 02:12 PM   #7
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I would advise anybody who owns a non aluminum frame trailer to fluid film the frame at least every other year.
Thanks for the tip- im not familiar with that , but I am going to look into it for future rust prevention
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Old 09-23-2023, 02:15 PM   #8
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I don't know if this is in your area, but I had Amherst Welding in MA chop out our ancient (1977 Scamp 13') rusty axle (and owner-added lift box) and reinforce the are, add a new lift box and weld-in a new Flexiride axle.

They also noticed that the coupler area was bent so they chopped that our and welded in a new 2" coupler.

They were not in the LEAST intimidated by an old rusty camper. They said these are the kinds of jobs they LIKE to do.

https://www.amherstwelding.com/

Also, I got my axle from Canadian Axle. Shipped to MA was cheaper than an axle from the Scamp factory shipped to me.
Thanks Alan, It has been a real challenge to find someone who is not intimidated to work on this in our area, but we are going to keep trying!
I will look into Canadian Axel as I think replacement is the only way to go at this point
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Old 09-23-2023, 05:49 PM   #9
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Last night (out of frustration) I got on Google Maps and sent a message to every RV repair shop and welder in a 2 hour radius
I had better luck calling places that build and repair horse trailers or farm equipment.

They seemed less intimidated by the idea that they would have to chop out stuff and weld new stuff in by figuring it out as they want along. These folks really know what they are doing and can weld-up anything needed on the spot. They do it all day long with farm equipment, they are SUPER nice and reasonably priced in my experience.

ALL the RV folks turned me down FLAT when I said 1977.
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Old 09-24-2023, 11:38 AM   #10
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I had better luck calling places that build and repair horse trailers or farm equipment.

They seemed less intimidated by the idea that they would have to chop out stuff and weld new stuff in by figuring it out as they want along. These folks really know what they are doing and can weld-up anything needed on the spot. They do it all day long with farm equipment, they are SUPER nice and reasonably priced in my experience.

ALL the RV folks turned me down FLAT when I said 1977.
Yup- as soon as we mention any metal work the RV repair people give us a hard no. We will need someone very comfortable with welding. Hopefully the shop we found in PA will be able to help & if not I will look into some of the more rural areas for trailer repair- that's a great idea, Thanks!
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Old 09-25-2023, 04:32 PM   #11
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Most RV shops and definitely the one near me is not capable of really repairing anything.
They DO know how to charge, but the actual work is a little below sub-standard.
A friend of mine got an invitation to have his trailer inspected and a quote for any needed repairs.
Since his tow vehicle was in the shop I towed it in for him for the inspection and they had a big lon g list of things that needed attention, especially the roof.
As it turns out they found issues with the previous work on the roof and poor workmanship.
The sad thing was that they had performed the work under warranty and it still leaked afterwards. The owner sealed the laking part up themselves.
Why would anyone even think about taking their trailer back to a company that failed to do the job correctly in the first place?
They almost talked him into doing the repairs on their original work!
They wanted over $2000 to "Scrape and seal and UV treat" the roof!
Stay away from most RV lots!
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Old 09-25-2023, 06:31 PM   #12
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Most RV shops and definitely the one near me is not capable of really repairing anything.
They DO know how to charge, but the actual work is a little below sub-standard.
A friend of mine got an invitation to have his trailer inspected and a quote for any needed repairs.
Since his tow vehicle was in the shop I towed it in for him for the inspection and they had a big lon g list of things that needed attention, especially the roof.
As it turns out they found issues with the previous work on the roof and poor workmanship.
The sad thing was that they had performed the work under warranty and it still leaked afterwards. The owner sealed the laking part up themselves.
Why would anyone even think about taking their trailer back to a company that failed to do the job correctly in the first place?
They almost talked him into doing the repairs on their original work!
They wanted over $2000 to "Scrape and seal and UV treat" the roof!
Stay away from most RV lots!
We are finding a lack of qualified people to work on the RV for sure!
That is confusing to me as RVing seems to be more popular than ever in recent years.
I am starting to think that owning an "older" rv (past 10 years) is either for someone who knows how to fix lots of things & has the tools/time to do so themselves...or someone with very deep pockets who can pay giant repair bills
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Old 09-25-2023, 06:38 PM   #13
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Did you check the VIN on your camper with that VIN lookup page posted above?

I suspect it's a LOT older than ten years from your photos.
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Old 09-26-2023, 07:05 PM   #14
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+100 to comments above. I would not look for an RV repair shop. I'd look for for someone who builds landscape trailers and similar. I have a hard time believing that frame is from 2012. Looks a lot older. I had a 1977 Trillium, came out of central Michigan, and the frame looked 100X better.
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Old 09-27-2023, 10:58 AM   #15
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Mother Nature reclaims it's own... Wondering where you store your trailer in downtime (winter). Is it on a grassy area? If so, grass will really accelerate rusting.
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Old 09-27-2023, 03:42 PM   #16
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Old 09-27-2023, 05:46 PM   #17
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humm that makes me think- the first owners did mention they did some colder weather camping...I wonder if exposure to road salt started this process

Could be part of it. The good news is that as long as you can get just a bit og heat going to the propane tanks scamp does real well in the cold. Remember the waste tanks are on the outside.
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Old 09-27-2023, 05:53 PM   #18
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We are the owners of a 2012 16' Scamp and it has been ours for the past 4 years and we are getting VERY concerned with the amount of rust showing up on the trailer & axel components.

When we purchased it there was visible rust on some areas of the trailer and we treated that with a "rust treatment" paint that was recommended by other RVers. That seemed to take care of it for a bit.

This summer we did a close inspection under the Scamp and noticed a concerning amount of rust and expansion of the component that attaches the axel to the frame on the passenger side: see picture

I have reached out to several RV mechanics, welders and trailer shops and we are unable to find someone willing to work on this...so any guidance would be appreciated!

The people we did talk to suggested it was time to "retire" the RV and it was no longer suitable for long trips. (We purchased a Scamp because they are known for being on the road for 20+ years!! If we can get this fixed I am sure she has a lot more travel left in her)

I have reached out to Scamp for guidance & am waiting for their response.

Do you know what this part is called?
Do we need to replace the whole axel to fix this component?
Is this normal on an 11 y/o Scamp? I thought they were known for longevity!?!
Do you know any good repair shops anywhere from the NJ area down to Florida (we will travel to have this taken care of!)

Thanks! - Laura, Patrick & "Doris" The Scamp

I found another great source of work on an RV frame. A shop that deals with simi trailers. If you are in my area try Authur's truck and tractor repair. One secret here. People with simi's tractor and truck need them fixed NOW NOW NOW. So they have to be able to take on and do a lot of work in a hurry, but then have slack times. They also have to deal with issues like this a lot and a lot more heavy duty. They they are able to handle it. But since it is for them a small and easy job, and since you can allow them a bunch of time to get it down (You can leave it there for a couple weeks right ;-) ) they will likely make you a deal. Then they can fit it in when they don't have enough NOW NOW NOW work.
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Old 09-28-2023, 11:24 PM   #19
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The issue here is the RV places have higher liability insurance claim issues that the people who do welding repairs on things such as cargo trailer and fame equipment repairs. But repairing the frame on a travel trailer is just basic welding of steel and it does not require an RV specialist to do the work.


I had a whole new frame built for my 1971 Campster trailer for the cost of materials. It was built by myself and two of my senior citizen guy friends. One of them a guy in his 80s who had his own fantastic "hobby" shop with a fully level floor that he covered in steel plate he set up just for welding up frames. He likes to restore vintage sports cars, old pickups, etc. The frame was a perfect fit as the welding job was also perfect. So basically you just need a person who is competent in welding but do buy good quality steel instead of that inferior stuff used on the original. Plus have the rest of the frame tested to be sure it is in decent shape. It is not impossible to have an all new frame welded up but do it by a trailer company out towards the countryside smaller towns where they make custom utility trailers. Do not bother trying to get it done in a big city and certainly do not even bother asking an RV repair company near a large city as very few of them take on welding work. When you get into the bigger cities those companies have much higher property taxes and liability issues so they have to charge you more to cover their overhead and higher labor cost.
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