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04-03-2012, 07:10 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Al
Trailer: 1982 13 foot Scamp
Wisconsin
Posts: 123
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State Licensing Requirements for FGRVs
Here in Wisconsin,it's confusing about registering a FGRV.Some people believe that you need not,but I posted earlier today with a link to WI DMV,that pretty much says,yes,you do.
The legal aspect: If you were ever in an accident with a trailer that was not legally registered, it would be a field day for the plaintiff's attorney.
So maybe,how about a state-by-state listing of licensing requirements for FGRVs?
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04-03-2012, 08:05 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,583
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I'm always up for new things, but hummmmm. Since this deals with rules, regulations and the government (no comments, please) and possibly personal liability... along with the fact we know things change and sometimes fast... it might be better to track down and post the actual state website that deals with state trailer licensing issues. Here's Oregon's: Oregon DMV - Light Trailers, plus this: http://www.odot.state.or.us/forms/dmv/464.pdf
All travel trailers of all years, require title and registration (license plate).
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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04-03-2012, 08:44 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: Escape 21C
New York
Posts: 2,345
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Well, it would be nice if NY has a separate trailer page, but they don't. This is as close as they get - the trailer info is mixed in with other vehicles.
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04-04-2012, 05:47 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
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That's the ticket Al.  Always best to get the information from the horses mouth... as they say
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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04-04-2012, 06:36 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Class A Motorhome
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Perhaps a shorter list might be any state(s) that "Don't" require at least registration and plates on travel trailers. While many states don't issue titles after so many years, I am not aware of any that don't at least require registration and plates.
CA has had a "Permanent Plate" scheme for a while, whereby, unless requested, you don't get a hard copy of the title, but it stays on file with the DMV.
BTW: "Permanent", in CA means renewing every 5 years.
I, for one, would feel a little uneasy buying a trailer that didn't have a title, as getting one such registered in the Golden State can be a PITA.
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04-04-2012, 07:57 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Roger
Trailer: U Hall VT
Michigan
Posts: 435
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04-04-2012, 12:50 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2000 Burro 17 ft / 2001 Toyota Tundra V8 2wd
Posts: 334
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Miller
Perhaps a shorter list might be any state(s) that "Don't" require at least registration and plates on travel trailers. While many states don't issue titles after so many years, I am not aware of any that don't at least require registration and plates.
CA has had a "Permanent Plate" scheme for a while, whereby, unless requested, you don't get a hard copy of the title, but it stays on file with the DMV.
BTW: "Permanent", in CA means renewing every 5 years.
I, for one, would feel a little uneasy buying a trailer that didn't have a title, as getting one such registered in the Golden State can be a PITA.
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You still get title with the permanent plates. What you don't get is the annual registration sticker, instead the license plate says permanent trailer. Last I checked it's $10 every 5 years to renew.
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04-05-2012, 05:53 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Class A Motorhome
Posts: 7,912
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Permanent Plates/Titles in CA
When I registered my new-to-me Compact-II about a month ago I was offered a "Virtual Title". If I wanted a hard copy I had to fill out a request form to have one sent to me. No exta charge.
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04-05-2012, 09:46 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Dave
Trailer: ,Bigfoot 25 foot plus Surfside 14 foot
British Columbia
Posts: 1,148
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Just in case you EVER want to sell it, and it might be sold outside of the US of A, a "virtual copy" of a title is NOT acceptable for trans-border sales.
I can go & get my neighbor who is "up to here" in a virtual quagmire over a boat that had a virtual title which he purchased in Cali. Lawyers are making money, he's having fits. The border officials told him that a virtual title is useful only for a virtual boat (or, in this case - trailer)
Get the "actual" title.
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04-05-2012, 01:03 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Greg
Trailer: 72 Boler American
Indiana
Posts: 1,557
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
That's the ticket Al.  Always best to get the information from the horses mouth... as they say 
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 As opposed to the horses arse.
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04-07-2012, 05:57 AM
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Administrator
Name: Mary
Trailer: 2015 Escape 21; formerly Casita 1999 17 ft Liberty Deluxe
Posts: 10,868
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If somebody wants to compile such a list, we'll post it. Or just start a topic/thread on it, and see what develops. I'm thinking General Chat would be the right forum, or maybe Towing? (Things do tend to get lost in General Chat, unless we "pin" them so they stay at the top...)
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04-07-2012, 07:07 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 88 Scamp 16 ft
Posts: 196
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScampBum
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from the page you linked to........ Gross weight trailers A title and registration is required for trailers operated over 3,000 pounds. A title and registration is not required for trailers operated at or less than 3,000 pounds gross weight unless used for hire or rental. Title and registration is encouraged for these vehicles that will be used on roads outside the state of Wisconsin, as other states' registration laws may be different.
My opinion, (which is is just an opinion) is that the title should at a minimum, still be considered for no other reason than resale purposes.
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04-07-2012, 07:39 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,583
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Having a title is not only a good idea of resale... but what if you move to a state that requires a title? We have at least one member that's happened to... moved to Oregon. Oregon requires titles. Protect yourself and your assets is my mantra. YMMV
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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04-07-2012, 07:55 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Ron
Trailer: Trillium 13 ft (green grape)
Ontario
Posts: 442
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Hello USA
Here in Canada we req a plate on ALL trailers. The plate is around $20 and good forever on that trailer.
For owners not req plates and traveling to diff state don't you get stopped a lot? I was in Mich and lost my plate, was not long till I was pulled over..
Even if we build a trailer we req plates.
When we stell a trailer the Ownership papers go with the trailer but we keep the plate and a plate portion of ownership which we can transfer to another trailer.
Ron
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04-07-2012, 09:55 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Casita
Posts: 649
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ND required registering and titling. I would no matter if required or not. It will provide some protection to you if stolen. It would then be in the system so if someone else tried to register it they would have a problem and you might get it back.
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04-07-2012, 01:51 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dave
Trailer: ,Bigfoot 25 foot plus Surfside 14 foot
British Columbia
Posts: 1,148
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Here in British Columbia - if it is on the road, it needs a license. It also needs its own insurance. Your valid, current license plate means it is insured as they are (basically) one and the same thing here.
(if it has a current plate, its insured as the only way to cancel insurance is to turn in the plate. Plates belong to the OWNER, not to the vehicle - owner keeps the plates on sale of the vehicle)
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04-07-2012, 04:30 PM
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Moderator
Trailer: Fiber Stream 1978 / Honda Odyssey LX 2003
Posts: 8,215
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mary F
Or just start a topic/thread on it, and see what develops. I'm thinking General Chat would be the right forum, or maybe Towing?
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This thread looks like a pretty good start. I'll move it to "Towing"
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Frederick - The Scaleman
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04-07-2012, 08:20 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Al
Trailer: 1982 13 foot Scamp
Wisconsin
Posts: 123
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As I said in a previous post...who wants to be pulled over on the side of the road with an out of state law enforcement officer while they try to figure out if your legal or not?Even in this era of instant internet comms,states do not always have the correct access to each others registration info.And there you sit.
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