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Old 03-23-2021, 12:08 PM   #1
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Trillium - original axle?

Hi folks, new to this forum and new to a 1975 Trillium 1300. Thanks for the wealth of knowledge on here, helped me out aligning the door and making a plan for the frame work - looks in good shape but the recall reinforcements haven't been done on it. Going to lift off the shell and give it a proper undercoating while at it.


Question: Is there any sure way to tell if the axle is original? I looked through the posts on assessing your axle and it feels fine, lot's of clearance and moves well when trailer raised or bounced, and rides slightly lower on the trailer's heavy side. I'm planning on installing electric brakes, so trying to decide if necessary to replace the axle too. The axle has the square 4 hole plates for brakes, and though welded to frame does have bolt slots too - not sure if that is a sign is was installed later? Any insights appreciated. Thanks!
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Old 03-23-2021, 06:08 PM   #2
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My orignal axle had a data plate in the middle of the cross member. It was also a 2000# axle. If yous has been replaced. It was likely replaced with a higher capacity axle.
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Old 03-23-2021, 06:46 PM   #3
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My original 1977 axle has both bolt slots and brake backing plates and still has good clearance.
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Old 03-24-2021, 03:00 PM   #4
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Hello,

My 1978 Trillium still has the original axle that has both the little ID plate
on it and slots in the mounting brackets.

Sure needs a new axle... Big job!

Uncle Larry
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Old 03-25-2021, 08:14 AM   #5
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Yep, it's original. Pulled the frame out and the plate reads Ingersoll 1500lb E4. As mentioned, suspension still appears good, however I do want to add brakes so I guess now is the time to swap it. Dexter #9 I take it is the usual replacement, can anyone point me towards a Canadian supplier?


Frame looks in overall good shape, the front bolt hole fish plating hasn't been done so will definitely do that and add mounting flanges for the shell, and paint it, any other recommendations while I have it out?
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Old 03-25-2021, 08:38 AM   #6
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Yep, it's original. Pulled the frame out and the plate reads Ingersoll 1500lb E4. As mentioned, suspension still appears good, however I do want to add brakes so I guess now is the time to swap it. Dexter #9 I take it is the usual replacement, can anyone point me towards a Canadian supplier?


Frame looks in overall good shape, the front bolt hole fish plating hasn't been done so will definitely do that and add mounting flanges for the shell, and paint it, any other recommendations while I have it out?
Princess Auto is having a sale on 3500# brakes. Now I have never mixed large brakes with a smaller axle, so you should confirm that the bolt holes will line up, and the brakes will fit inside your rims.
https://www.princessauto.com/en/elec...?skuId=8212086

These are only half of the assembly, you will also need the hubs that fit these brakes. This is where I am really out on a limb. The stub axle on a 1500# axle will likely be smaller and not fit a 3500# hub.
https://www.princessauto.com/en/3500...t/PA0008211716

I am hoping other, more knowledgeable folks, will chime in.
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Old 03-25-2021, 09:55 AM   #7
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I am a big fan of the Flexi-ride axle. The main benefit is the angle of the torsion arms are adjustable. So you can get more ground clearance relatively easily.

Now that the frame is out, I would add eight fish plates, two each at each bend. You will see how the frame tubing is collapsed at each bend. I would also add plates where the rear frame overlaps the front frame. Some members have had that connection fail. Super easy to do while the frame is out.
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Old 03-26-2021, 12:41 PM   #8
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I am a big fan of the Flexi-ride axle. The main benefit is the angle of the torsion arms are adjustable. So you can get more ground clearance relatively easily.

Now that the frame is out, I would add eight fish plates, two each at each bend. You will see how the frame tubing is collapsed at each bend. I would also add plates where the rear frame overlaps the front frame. Some members have had that connection fail. Super easy to do while the frame is out.

Thanks for the tips Bill. Contacted Canadian Axle that makes the Flexiride, I do like the sound of the adjustable arms and their pricing seems to be better than Dexter axles here in Canada. Have you put a Flexiride on a Trillium? Just making sure the dimensions all line up.
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Old 03-26-2021, 02:07 PM   #9
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Itís on my do list right now. I know others have used the flexiride on Trilliums. One thing on flexiride the arms are shorter than Dexters. Installer just needs to attach it so the arm puts the wheel in the center of the wheel well. Measure twice, weld once!!
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Old 04-08-2021, 09:58 AM   #10
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Where are you located Jonathan? I’ve been looking this spring to do the same thing (frame fish plates and new axle) on our ‘73 1300 here in BC. Got a quote for a dexter (was around $600-800, takes 6 weeks to arrive). What was your flexiride quote?
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Old 04-08-2021, 11:25 AM   #11
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I just got a quote for a 2000# Flexiride with brakes 5 on 4.5-Inch from Canadian Axle for CAN$530 for my Scamp 13-foot.

They have all the parts, and think they can ship it 1 week from my payment. (Maybe FRIDAY!)

Michaela was wonderful answering all my questions over about two weeks as I measured and figured out what I needed.

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613-653-7839
michaela@canadianaxle.com
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That is about $410 US. Very nice!
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Old 04-08-2021, 01:38 PM   #13
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That is about $410 US. Very nice!
Indeed.

It cost me US$600 including shipping to Cambridge, MA (And since my credit card doesn't have a foreign transaction fee, that's all it cost.)

The replacement axle from Scamp is US$500 without shipping (and is out of stock with no estimate on when they'll get more in), so I think this is an excellent deal.
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Old 04-09-2021, 08:18 AM   #14
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Where are you located Jonathan? Iíve been looking this spring to do the same thing (frame fish plates and new axle) on our Ď73 1300 here in BC. Got a quote for a dexter (was around $600-800, takes 6 weeks to arrive). What was your flexiride quote?
Hi Alex, $490 for the flexiride axle with 7" brakes, and $200 to ship it to Smithers BC (and just 5% GST as ships from ON) Canadian Axle are great to deal with and shipped in a few days, should be here this weekend. Good luck!
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