03-25-2009, 07:11 AM
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Trailer: 1983 13 ft Scamp
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03-25-2009, 07:17 AM
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Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
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Low rider, unless that wheel is down in the mud.
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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03-25-2009, 09:39 AM
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Trailer: Scamp 16 ft and Trillium 4500
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Looks like the tire is flat, Donna.
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03-25-2009, 12:26 PM
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Trailer: 1974 Boler 13 ft (Neonex/Winnipeg)
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That is a low price, but I have to laugh at the "good condition." What would "fair condition" (or something else less than "good") look like, one wonders.
It does show a "square" jalousie window in the door and the Scamp logos though. So chalk one up for April's trailer and the mystery trailer from last week (gold stripe) being Scamps.
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03-25-2009, 12:31 PM
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Trailer: 1983 13 ft Scamp
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That big AC on the top looks like trouble, unless he has some extra bracing on the inside. Also that axle is SHOT.
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03-25-2009, 04:04 PM
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Trailer: 1981 13 ft Burro (Sunny side UP!)
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I am so glad I found this forum! I was thinking I might want to consider this trailer (even though it's not a Burro or Uhaul) because of the price. I wouldn't have known about the AC overload! And how can you tell that the axle is shot? Inquiring minds need to know!!
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03-25-2009, 04:32 PM
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Trailer: 1974 Boler 13 ft (Neonex/Winnipeg)
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There are specific tests you can do if you are at the trailer (bouncing up and down inside while someone looks at the axle; measuring clearance between tire and floor), but I think Kevin is just looking at what a "low rider" this trailer looks to be. Of course the tire looks flat, but even still...
Raya
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03-25-2009, 05:11 PM
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Trailer: 1983 13 ft Scamp
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Anne Badgley
Before new axle
After new axle
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03-25-2009, 06:36 PM
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Trailer: 1974 Boler 13 ft (Neonex/Winnipeg)
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Although, to be fair to an older trailer where the axle is still acceptable (probably not the trailer in question, but others), I don't think they're ever as high as Kevin's new axle.
But.. maybe I'm wrong? Kevin, is that axle exactly to the specs of the one that came on the trailer? Or is it somehow angled or etc. for a bit more lift?
Raya
PS:> And by the way, Kevin has another mid-80s Scamp with the "square," jalousie window. Suddenly they're coming out in droves!
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03-26-2009, 04:54 AM
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Trailer: 1983 13 ft Scamp
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Raya L.
I only have 1 Scamp. Also my trailer is a little higher than most.
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03-26-2009, 06:51 AM
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Trailer: 1978 Trillium 4500 Deluxe
Posts: 295
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Hi,
The early Scamps have that appearance of a bad axle. This is the Scamp I sold last year fully restored, and the axle was just fine. There is still about 4" clearance to the upper body. Check out the photos. Front & Back.
This was a 1976.
Dave
"The Trillium King" 
Just click on photo to enlarge!
P.S. I tried to delete my duplicate photo under "Manage Current Attachments" with no luck! Plus I asked for help from Donna D. with "ZERO" response and no action. I tried!!!!!!!
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03-26-2009, 06:55 AM
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Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
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Kevin I believe "another" was referring to another trailer on this board.
There was a discussion on the square jailhouse door window in this thread trying to determine the make of an unbadged trailer which had a square door window. Apparently the square window seems to be only on the 1983 and 1984 Scamps. Sometime before that it was a smaller rectangular window, sometime after the radius corners started appearing.
Without you copying and posting the pictures from the various ads, we would not know that. Thank you for your efforts, I now look to the "referrals" to see the differences between trailers.
Edited to add link
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03-26-2009, 07:22 AM
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Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
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Quote:
how can you tell that the axle is shot? Inquiring minds need to know!!
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Anne,
If you look at this sales brochure in the documents section you will see that the center of the wheel is just about even or slightly below the level of the body at the door on a new trailer. The body looks lower with old axles in need of replacement, i.e. the body settles down as the rubber in the axle distorts over the years. There are lots of discussions in the forums about checking an axle.
If you are new to these trailers, you should also note that the body is made to come lower on the door side by a few inches to allow for the lowered floor in the kitchen area.
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03-26-2009, 08:01 AM
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Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
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When attempting to determine if an axle is still good, one thing I look at is the top of the wheel well in relation to the hub of the tire. Not necessarily the body to the ground. It doesn't matter if the tire is flat or not. Check out the differences between the trailer above and a pic I snagged on Scamps site, this may help determine if this axle good, marginal or shot:
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Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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03-26-2009, 08:20 AM
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Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
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Neat picture Donna,
Interesting I never noticed the difference in body styles before. The new Scamps have a greater curvature of the lower edge curbside, where the old model was flatter.
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03-26-2009, 08:02 PM
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Trailer: 1974 Boler 13 ft (Neonex/Winnipeg)
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And going by The Donna Method, the Scamp for sale's axle might not be that bad  It is a tad lower; not sure how much is too much though
But it definitely looked lower than it is, due to the flat, it seems.
Kevin: Yes when I said "another" I was referring to an earlier thread (Referrals, $800 Boler clone with gold stripe and window like yours). Sorry I wasn't clear, but Roy explained it well.
Raya
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03-26-2009, 08:13 PM
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Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
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The Donna Method... oh brother is everyone in trouble.  But, it does bring up something. Anyone that is replacing an axle may want to take some measurements from top of wheel well to the ground... write that down in a safe place... like a journal. In the future, a re-measurement would tell you how you're axle is doing. Just an idea.
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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03-26-2009, 10:43 PM
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Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
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Or use an old brochure with specs.
Total height
- inside height
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= Height to top of floor
(or approx 3 3/4" less) to bottom of frame for wood floors.
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03-26-2009, 11:01 PM
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Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
Posts: 5,141
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Here is a little more info. Checking the specs on the Dexter #9 axle for the 22.5 down to 10 up we get the following.
Range of travel from no load to full load = 2.18" to 2.34" in total
Range of travel from no load to shock load = 3.01" to 3.34" in total
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