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Old 03-02-2021, 05:36 PM   #1
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2020 Wrangler 2.0 Turbo

Wanting to tow 2022 17 ft Casita Freedom. Any thoughts or another light weight that would be better.
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Old 03-02-2021, 05:43 PM   #2
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The Wrangler Sport 2.0 has a tow limit of 2,000 pounds. A Casita 17 is way over that, close to double, somewhere in the 3,250 to 3,500 pound range..

So if that is your vehicle you are in the 13 foot camper range: Scamp 13 and similar. Check weights in the real world for realistic trailer weights.

Casitas are also known for heavy tongue weight.
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Old 03-02-2021, 06:40 PM   #3
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Wow never read that. Eveything I have seen says the new Wranglers with 2.0 Turbos towing capacity is 3500 lbs. can not find anything that says its only 2000 lbs.
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Old 03-02-2021, 06:45 PM   #4
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Ahh. The two door has that. Mine is a jlu
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Old 03-02-2021, 06:52 PM   #5
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Assuming you have a tow rating of 3,500 pounds you are up against the limit with that Casita. Scamp 16 will give you a little breathing room. In another thread several are liking towing the Scamp 16 with a Jeep.

Many would not go for the Casita. In the end it is up to you.
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Old 03-02-2021, 07:11 PM   #6
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With the Casita 17 you will also have to deal with 400-425# of tongue weight. So Iíd say no. With a 3500/350# rating a 16í is pretty much the limit.
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Old 03-02-2021, 07:14 PM   #7
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Thanks all. Think Ill look into Scamp instead of Casita.
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Old 03-03-2021, 06:50 AM   #8
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Thanks all. Think Ill look into Scamp instead of Casita.
Casita also makes a 16' model. Each has a couple of layout options not available on the other. Beware the main bed size on many of the Scamp and Casita 16'ers (45"x76"). It's pretty tight for a couple. The Casita Liberty layout has a large multi-configurable bed. Scamp deluxe (wood interior) versions have a wider (54"x76') main bed.
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I have a Cherokee with a 5K lb. tow rating. 5spd. 2wd 4 liter L6.
It does a great job with my Snoozy that maxes out at slightly under 3K lb. or 60% of it's tow rating. I wouldn't want to tow anything that exceeded 75% of my tow rating, but that is just me.
Towing near or exceeding the tow limits of a turbo charged vehicle presents another problem. The turbo unit will, when towing near the limits, be working under boost almost full time. Then the question is which will become toast first, the turbo unit or the engine.
Excepting large SUVs and pickup trucks most vehicles made in the last 20 years have towing capabilities akin to a bad joke.
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Old 03-03-2021, 09:41 AM   #10
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[QUOTE=Jon in AZ;807215]Casita also makes a 16' model.

I've heard that Casita has stopped production on the 16 foot model due to higher demand for the 17. The 16 has lower tongue weight because the axle is located farther forward, but I don't know what that weight is. The Casita 13's have been discontinued.
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Interesting. I hadn’t heard that. The web site still mentions the 16’er but only gives pricing for the 17’ models for the 2022 model year.

Not surprising, really. They probably sold twenty 17’ers for every 16’er. They put little effort into updating either the 16’ or the 13’.

Used, maybe? A very nice, late model 16’ Spirit Deluxe was listed last week in Arizona for $16K. Went fast.
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Old 03-03-2021, 12:59 PM   #12
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Called and talked to Scamp. 18 months to get one. Long time.
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Old 03-03-2021, 01:44 PM   #13
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Nice thing about Scamp is it only costs $500 to place.an order, and it is 100% refundable until they start your build. That gives you quite a bit of time to search for a used unit with assurance that if you donít find one, thereís still a brand new one waiting. Possibly the most generous deposit policy in the industry.
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Old 03-10-2021, 12:38 PM   #14
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Wanting to tow 2022 17 ft Casita Freedom. Any thoughts or another light weight that would be better.
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I have a casita17ft freedom and your vehicle doesnít have enough to pull without destroying the engine. But since u have purchased the car check into hitch that might help . I was looking at the airstream and my vehicle didnít have enought to pull but they told me i could use a hitch that could handle it. I didnít go any farther than that. .i would do some more research
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Be advised. Jeep is owned by Fiat. I wouldn't recommend it.
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If you look at the numbers yes you can pull the Casita 17 with a 4 door Wrangler. The limiters with the Jeep is the frame but it will handle the Casita if you pay attention to your loading.
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I heard the 4dr Jeep wrangler is rated for only 3500 lbs because it uses a softer suspension to give it better off road performance. Conversely my previously owned 2002 Jeep Liberty had a 5000lb tow rating, even though it is smaller. I guess you want a stiffer suspension when towing. I wonder if you could just put in some stiffer rear springs or an air bag.

This is what you want to avoid

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I heard the 4dr Jeep wrangler is rated for only 3500 lbs because it uses a softer suspension to give it better off road performance. Conversely my previously owned 2002 Jeep Liberty had a 5000lb tow rating, even though it is smaller. I guess you want a stiffer suspension when towing. I wonder if you could just put in some stiffer rear springs or an air bag.

This is what you want to avoid

https://youtu.be/nd-hUX8memY
That will not help the anemic 2.0 liter engine with turbo. Towing at or near the maximum tow limits will have the mini engine operating under boost at almost full time. The engine nor the turbo unit was manufactured to tolerate stresses imposed by consistent operation under boost.
If you want tow capability for anything larger than a 13 ft trailer a Jeep with a larger engine is advisable. I wouldn't want to tow even a 13 ft. trailer with a 2.0 turbo unless I lived on the plains where I would never encounter hills.
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I heard the 4dr Jeep wrangler is rated for only 3500 lbs because it uses a softer suspension to give it better off road performance. Conversely my previously owned 2002 Jeep Liberty had a 5000lb tow rating, even though it is smaller. I guess you want a stiffer suspension when towing. I wonder if you could just put in some stiffer rear springs or an air bag.

This is what you want to avoid

https://youtu.be/nd-hUX8memY
Simply changing the springs, does not change the tow rating of the vehicle. It also doesn't change the height, to width to length ratios, the tongue weight, or the size of the brakes. It's best to stay a good margin below the listed max tow rating of the vehicle.
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That will not help the anemic 2.0 liter engine with turbo. Towing at or near the maximum tow limits will have the mini engine operating under boost at almost full time. The engine nor the turbo unit was manufactured to tolerate stresses imposed by consistent operation under boost.
If you want tow capability for anything larger than a 13 ft trailer a Jeep with a larger engine is advisable. I wouldn't want to tow even a 13 ft. trailer with a 2.0 turbo unless I lived on the plains where I would never encounter hills.
According to the specs both the 3.6L V6 and 2.0T are capable of 3500lbs towing. The 2.0T actually has more torque (295 lb.-ft) than the 3.6 V6 ( 260 lb.-ft) with just a little less overall horse power (270 vs 280). So despite what you are claiming the actual specs says it will work up to 3500lbs. Now as far as reliability I would say probably the 3.6 v6 is better than a turbo, which historically turbos are less reliable. But as far as having enough power it looks like the 2.0T could do the job.
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