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Old 06-27-2012, 05:14 PM   #21
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Not cheap if the axle doesn't have the mounting flange.
Thx, Good to know. Waiting on a quote with having to ad the flange
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:27 PM   #22
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Ok, here is the site which shows my car specs:

2011 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport Base 4dr All-wheel Drive Hatchback Specs

It is an all wheel drive and weighs over 4K lbs. I do have a receiver hitch which I had installed. The seller is going to weigh the unit. The unit does not have brakes.

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Careful reading the specs. It weighs about 3108 empty (probably some gas in it), the 4,190 is the MAXIMUM weight you shouldn't exceed. That should be measured with the trailer on the hitch.

Curb weight vs Gross weight, important difference there.
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:31 PM   #23
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Thx, Good to know. Waiting on a quote with having to ad the flange
On Scamps I think it's rare that you can just weld the flange on. Some axles have hubs that allow that, but I'm not clear how popular those are.

I couldn't weld the flanges on my hubs and needed a whole new axle. But the new axle and brakes were less than $400, before installation anyway, installation wasn't cheap.
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:14 PM   #24
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Correct. Their factory receivers are not strong enough to support the leverage from the WDH. That is why a custom heavy duty receiver would be required.

This is a custom receiver being installed on a Sub. Quite a difference between custom and factory.
Actually this is totally incorrect. Subaru only started putting their own receivers on their cars in the past 2 years but the no WDH rule had been in effect long before. It's actually an issue with how a WDH impacts their all wheel drive system.
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:56 PM   #25
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Actually this is totally incorrect. Subaru only started putting their own receivers on their cars in the past 2 years but the no WDH rule had been in effect long before. It's actually an issue with how a WDH impacts their all wheel drive system.
Interesting.

All the WDH does is transfer some of the weight from the back of the vehicle to the front of the vehicle. As long as one doesn't over load the specs on the axle weight ratings there shouldn't be any problems.

There are a lot of 4wd Subs using WDH's. No problems that we have heard of. There can be an issue with the Subs using a WDH and the factory air suspension but that is a different story.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:02 PM   #26
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Interesting.

All the WDH does is transfer some of the weight from the back of the vehicle to the front of the vehicle. As long as one doesn't over load the specs on the axle weight ratings there shouldn't be any problems.

There are a lot of 4wd Subs using WDH's. No problems that we have heard of. There can be an issue with the Subs using a WDH and the factory air suspension but that is a different story.
At the end of the day the bottom line is the people who build the car clearly in the manual state " Do not use with any type of weight distribution hitch" highlighted. Personally I will take their word for it rather than those who are speculating as to the reasons why.
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Old 06-30-2012, 09:15 PM   #27
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If the Trillium does not exceed the Subaru's tow weight and hitch weight limitations, the combo should be ok IMO. With AWD and low center of gravity, the Subaru will handle an appropriate trailer very well. I hope the numbers are favorable for you.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:56 AM   #28
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thanks Mike; waiting for an exact weight on unit and tongue.
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