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Old 05-21-2020, 05:36 PM   #1
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Hi! I'm new to this community

I'm Pelagia. I have been shopping for a 1500 pound trailer that my crosstrek can pull and Scamp seems to be the only one at that weight that can design in a toilet and shower. I was surprised to see an order made today would not be ready til November! Five years ago I owned an Escape, but that's when I drove a Toyota Tundra to pull it. Downsized and happy. Question: can Scamps be rented to make sure I like it before I order one?
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Old 05-21-2020, 10:36 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum.

Trailer rental operations seem to come and go. Two rental businesses I was aware of that were focused on renting small molded fiberglass trailers have closed.

Here's a Scamp 13 for rent in Colorado, and a search box to look further.

https://www.outdoorsy.com/rv-rental/..._64119-listing

Entering "scamp trailer rental" in Google, (without quotes), brought up a couple of other potential prospects in various parts of the country.
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Old 05-22-2020, 06:20 AM   #3
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Pelagia, I own a 13 foot Boler that I tow with my Crosstrek. Modern Scamp with a bathroom will be pushing your towing capacity. My Boler weighs about 1300 pounds loaded without water in the tank and no bathroom. I wouldn't want it to be any heavier. I can tow it without any problems and have functioning electric brakes (absolutely necessary for the Crosstrek to achieve the 1500 pound capacity).
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Old 05-22-2020, 06:54 AM   #4
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Personally, the only trailers Iíd be comfortable towing with a Crosstrek are a vintage Eriba Puck or the modern Meerkat clone, with a base dry weight under 1000# and a narrow, low towing profile.

My very basic (no bath, A/C, or awning) 2008 Scamp 13 weighs around 1700# loaded. On a long grade or against a stiff headwind, my V6 Honda Pilot is clearly working hard.
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Old 05-22-2020, 06:54 AM   #5
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Thank you, Civilguy (sweet nickname), for that info, I will check it out since I'm in AZ and can easily hop over to CO to rent one. However, reading other posts last night I have been discouraged from buying a Scamp since I read the post of a member who just received his/her new one and the dry weight is over 1500 lbs. which is tops for Crosstrek. Im thinking Scamp may be too heavy. Having a bathroom is necessary since Im alone and older and don't need to be traipsing through the woods or out of the security of my trailer for a restroom.
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Old 05-22-2020, 06:56 AM   #6
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Thank you, Alex, does your Boler have a bathroom?
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Old 05-22-2020, 06:58 AM   #7
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Thank you, Jon, yes that's what I'm learning here. Do the two types you mentioned accomodate bathrooms at the weight you quoted?
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Old 05-22-2020, 07:00 AM   #8
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No, just a porta-potty. Hate to say it, but a bathroom in an under-1500# GVW trailer just isnít realistic. Youíd be much better off with an Outback instead of a Crosstrek. Itís a very popular tow vehicle for 13í Scamps, including front bath models.
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Old 05-22-2020, 07:46 AM   #9
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Thank you, Alex, does your Boler have a bathroom?
No it does not. I don't think you are going to be able to tow any trailer with a real bathroom with the Crosstrek. You could see how much it would cost to trade up to an Outback.
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Old 05-23-2020, 05:53 AM   #10
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We're pulling our 13' Boler with a Forester, which has the same drive train and brakes as your Crosstrek. The Outback is rated for higher towing weight because it has larger brake rotors. The drive train is the same.
We worked hard at reducing and keeping the Boler weight down when we renovated.
The older models of both Trillium and Boler are lighter than newer models.
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Old 05-23-2020, 07:00 AM   #11
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Thank you, Civilguy (sweet nickname), for that info, I will check it out since I'm in AZ and can easily hop over to CO to rent one. However, reading other posts last night I have been discouraged from buying a Scamp since I read the post of a member who just received his/her new one and the dry weight is over 1500 lbs. which is tops for Crosstrek. Im thinking Scamp may be too heavy. Having a bathroom is necessary since Im alone and older and don't need to be traipsing through the woods or out of the security of my trailer for a restroom.
1. You will never tow dry weight. Check weights in the real world for a better view of what actual weight will be (its higher).

2. No true bathroom model (that I am aware of) will weight in at 1500 pounds or less. Even my 1977 Trillium 1300 (no bathroom) weighs over 1500 pounds with no propane tank and not much packed inside.

3. Almost all the vintage 13 footers did not have bathrooms. Trillium did make one version of the 1300 with a toilet, very, very, rare.

4. I've seen many people out there that tout how light their trailer weighs, but have never run it across a scale. And a lot of sellers will list a weight, but if you ask them where the weight comes from, its typically one of those "I was told....." Real data? Nope.

The good news with a 13 foot trailer with no bathroom is you have more room for other stuff. Squeezing a bathroom in a 13 footer means you lose critical space. Realize the body of a 13 foot FG trailer is only 10 feet long total. Mark out a spot in your house sometime, 6 1/2 feet by ten. Then fit in a door, an aisle way, a bed, a small kitchen area, a closet (in part to support the roof and wall). Tight.

For renting an RV, you can find them on RVshare or Outdoorsy. Google RV rental by owner.
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We're pulling our 13' Boler with a Forester, which has the same drive train and brakes as your Crosstrek.
The Crosstrek has the smaller 2.0L engine shared with the Impreza. The Forester has the 2.5L, same as the base engine in the Outback. I did hear a 2.5L may be coming as an option in the Crosstrek later this year, but thatís not going to help the OP, and I doubt it will affect the tow rating, which (as you say) is about more than just the engine.

I agree some of the vintage 13íers are lighter and can be kept within the 1500# rating of the Crosstrek and the Forester. But not with a wet bath, which is on the OPís list of requirements. For that an Outback is needed.

The 2020 Outback is riding on a new chassis (a shortened version of the Ascent), which allowed Subaru to raise tongue weight ratings. However, with attention to tongue weight, 2019 and older Outbacks are capable of pulling a 13í wet bath model.
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