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Old 07-13-2020, 05:40 AM   #1
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Just an old man and his dog...

We boon docked this past Winter on BLM land in AZ & SoCal in an old non-fiberglass Palm Aire trailer. This is a great site!


Had no idea there were so many different models and VERY surprised at the prices and how well they must hold their value.


Watching classified for small basic unit. Would like A/C and furnace; but not totally necessary. 4-Season would be nice. Small = "sleeps" one or two.


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Old 07-13-2020, 06:16 AM   #2
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We boon docked this past Winter on BLM land in AZ & SoCal in an old non-fiberglass Palm Aire trailer. This is a great site!


Had no idea there were so many different models and VERY surprised at the prices and how well they must hold their value.


Watching classified for small basic unit. Would like A/C and furnace; but not totally necessary. 4-Season would be nice. Small = "sleeps" one or two.


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Old 07-13-2020, 06:49 AM   #3
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Had no idea there were so many different models and VERY surprised at the prices and how well they must hold their value.

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Yes, they do hold their value. It is not uncommon for a well maintained 20-year-old molded fiberglass RV to sell for the original new purchase price. At the same time, a 20-year-old stick built is being sold as a hunting shack.
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Old 07-13-2020, 09:09 AM   #4
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4 season would limit you to Oliver, Bigfoot of fairly recent vintage, and maybe a fully loaded Escape.


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Old 07-13-2020, 09:48 AM   #5
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We are both 6 foot tall and not slender, but we go in all weather with our 1982 16 foot Scamp. Custom larger bed for our needs, but the Great Pyrenees takes up a lot of floor at night when we use th4e cassette potty. Also have a silky that wants lots of footroom on the bed for a 28 lb doggie. Use a portable propane hearet for cold (built in CO monitor and shutoff) with a Harbor Freight (or other) 2000 watt quiet generator to run AC which is a window unit we made a toungue rack for and fits in under the belt. WOnderful independence from tourist throngs.
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Old 07-13-2020, 03:32 PM   #6
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Thanks for you input. Yes, the Oliver... $$$ OUCH!
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Old 07-13-2020, 03:35 PM   #7
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We are both 6 foot tall and not slender, but we go in all weather with our 1982 16 foot Scamp. Custom larger bed for our needs, but the Great Pyrenees takes up a lot of floor at night when we use th4e cassette potty. Also have a silky that wants lots of footroom on the bed for a 28 lb doggie. Use a portable propane hearet for cold (built in CO monitor and shutoff) with a Harbor Freight (or other) 2000 watt quiet generator to run AC which is a window unit we made a toungue rack for and fits in under the belt. WOnderful independence from tourist throngs.

Interesting! Thanks! Is your Scamp insulated? Yes, I have the Harbor Freight 2000 generator - love it!
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Interesting! Thanks! Is your Scamp insulated? Yes, I have the Harbor Freight 2000 generator - love it!
Remember that the Scamp drain lines are outside in the cold.
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Old 07-14-2020, 11:25 AM   #9
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No insulation added yet. Perhaps a roof shade later in hot sunny areas.
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Remember that the Scamp drain lines are outside in the cold.

Yes. I was at 7 - 8,000 feet with 17F temps in the old stick built non-FG trailer this past Winter in CO. Knew to drain, purge, and add pink-stuff antifreeze.



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Old 07-14-2020, 12:38 PM   #11
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added insulation

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No insulation added yet. Perhaps a roof shade later in hot sunny areas.

May I ask HOW would you add insulation? Gut the Scamp to the walls first?
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Old 07-18-2020, 10:55 AM   #12
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Bigfoot cold weather

We have a 2003 25 ft Bigfoot, visiting friends in NM at about 6000 ft winter got down to 4 deg F. pipes initially froze while we were in their house but as soon as we turned on the installed furnace they thawed and RV was toasty.
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Old 07-18-2020, 01:41 PM   #13
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A Casita might do well for you. I have the furnace in mine, and use solar panels to recharge the battery. Solar will not run the AC unit so I do stop at cheap RV parks for hookups when on the road in hot weather. As for cold temps, I've spent many nights in Yellowstone and the Tetons in spring and fall and never had a problem. Sometimes the morning temp has been below 20º but it warms up sufficiently so Ive never had a problem with freezing pipes. I do put Reflectix on the windows at night. I have the furnace set for night tie temp f about 60, and maybe 65 in the day time in the mountains.

My Casita is the 17' one, with the larger fridge and more storage.
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Old 07-18-2020, 05:02 PM   #14
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Hi John,

Try a Scamp 13 - 16 foot TT. What is your TV? I have A Scamp 19' 5th wheel which I love. Weight is very slight and it trails my TV beautifully. Getting ready to head to PA next month to visit my sisters.

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We have a 2003 25 ft Bigfoot, visiting friends in NM at about 6000 ft winter got down to 4 deg F. pipes initially froze while we were in their house but as soon as we turned on the installed furnace they thawed and RV was toasty.

From what I have read, YES the Bigfoot is well insulated. However... The cost is way beyond my budget.


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Old 07-19-2020, 04:59 AM   #16
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Try a Scamp 13 - 16 foot TT. What is your TV? I have A Scamp 19' 5th wheel which I love. Weight is very slight and it trails my TV beautifully. Getting ready to head to PA next month to visit my sisters.
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Thanks for your comments/input. I am currently looking at a 16 Scamp. My TV is 2013 F-150 5.0L -- But, I am not inclined towards a 5th wheel. Much bigger than I want/need.



The Scamp is not well insulated / suited for cold Winters. Thinking about "how" I might add insulation.
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Old 07-19-2020, 05:02 AM   #17
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Where did you boondock in AZ and SoCal?

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We boon docked this past Winter on BLM land in AZ & SoCal in an old non-fiberglass Palm Aire trailer. This is a great site!


Had no idea there were so many different models and VERY surprised at the prices and how well they must hold their value.


Watching classified for small basic unit. Would like A/C and furnace; but not totally necessary. 4-Season would be nice. Small = "sleeps" one or two.


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Hi JD I'm new and just starting out. Would you mind sharing your favorite boon docking places in AZ and SoCal? I'll be traveling with my dog also and could use tips. Maybe see you on the road. I'm also looking for a small camping trailer.
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Old 07-19-2020, 05:04 AM   #18
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A Casita might do well for you. I have the furnace in mine, and use solar panels to recharge the battery. Solar will not run the AC unit so I do stop at cheap RV parks for hookups when on the road in hot weather. As for cold temps, I've spent many nights in Yellowstone and the Tetons in spring and fall and never had a problem. Sometimes the morning temp has been below 20º but it warms up sufficiently so Ive never had a problem with freezing pipes. I do put Reflectix on the windows at night. I have the furnace set for night tie temp f about 60, and maybe 65 in the day time in the mountains. My Casita is the 17' one, with the larger fridge and more storage.

I have some experience with below freezing temps. Drained all plumbing, added RV antifreeze (the red stuff) and had no problems. Looking at 16' Scamp currently. Neither Scamp nor Casita are well insulated / suited for cold Winters. BTW, Reflectix has NO R-value; but, is great for reflecting the hot sun.


Thanks for your input.
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Old 07-19-2020, 06:27 AM   #19
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Hi JD I'm new and just starting out. Would you mind sharing your favorite boon docking places in AZ and SoCal? I'll be traveling with my dog also and could use tips. Maybe see you on the road. I'm also looking for a small camping trailer.

Hello Mary! I grew up on a farm just North of Wooster. RU near there?


Quartzsite, AZ (Google for all the RV related stuff) Has several Free BLM areas nearby. Small town; but, caters to the RV crowd and has all the stuff you might need. Water! Propane, dump stations, etc. They get 250 - 300,000 RV snowbirds there in the Winter - seriously.



From there head South 80 miles to Yuma, AZ. On the way is Mittry Lake - good spot / free. Then, I-8 West 15 miles to SoCal, another 10 miles and eexit onto Oligby Road right turn North 3 miles cross railroad tracks and then another 2 -5 miles. Everything on your right is Free BLM land. That was my fav spot all last Winter. VERY remote, few people. Need to drive back into Yoma for supplies: Water! Food, beer, etc. PM me if you would like more info.
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A four-season unit is not required for winter camping in the Sonoran and Mojave Deserts, but it does make it more comfortable.

If you can find one, a nice used Bigfoot 17.5’ would not be terribly expensive and within the towing capabilities of your pickup. The B17.5 is available in several variations, and all have winter upgrades. Bigfoots are very well constructed. (Note that older B17’s are lighter and cheaper, but lack winter upgrades.)

Here’s a B17.5G from the sold archives:
https://www.fiberglass-rv-4sale.com/...l-trailer-sale

If you let go of the four-season requirement Casita 17’s are plentiful, well-made, and comfortable for 1-2 people. The Freedom model has more comfortable indoor seating (for small-to-average-size people), a plus for long-term use.

Nothing wrong with a 16’ Scamp either.

Reflectix is a poor thermal insulator but an excellent radiant barrier. In addition to blocking sun in the summer, it’s great on non-thermal windows in winter to reflect heat back into the trailer to reduce propane and battery consumption by the furnace.
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