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03-03-2013, 08:24 AM
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#21
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Junior Member
Trailer: Burro 17 ft Widebody
Posts: 25
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I had a 6 cyl 2001 extended body Tacoma. It pulled my 17 foot Burro fairly well, but I went up hills and mountains in Colorado at 20-35mph. Only had slight problems with sway when passed by semis. I loved my Taco, but felt in the long run I was shortening its life. I said a sad goodbye to the Taco, and replaced it with a 5.7 liter V8 Tundra. Vast difference with the same mileage while towing, more comfortable, and power to spare. I would highly recommend you go with a Tundra with that size of trailer.
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03-05-2013, 10:09 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1977 TM14 Surfside / 2007 Toyota Tundra V8 2wd
Posts: 289
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Last year I weighed my Tundra 4.7 liter towing the Biggar. I'm rated 8500 total, so I was curious as to what my truck and trailer weighed. On the scale, loaded with my stuff, the truck came in at 3500 lbs with myself and my big dog, the trailer was also 3500. No problem pulling but I do know that the trailer is behind me.
Marina
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03-05-2013, 10:15 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trail Michigante
Posts: 165
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We haul our 13' Trailmite with a 2.7 Tacoma. While it is able to haul it fairly well we don't set any speed records, especially on grades. So personally I think that a 16' egg would overburden the lil 4-banger.
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03-06-2013, 02:13 AM
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#24
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Senior Member
Name: Jesse
Trailer: 1984 Scamp 13'
Maryland
Posts: 815
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marinab
Last year I weighed my Tundra 4.7 liter towing the Biggar. I'm rated 8500 total, so I was curious as to what my truck and trailer weighed. On the scale, loaded with my stuff, the truck came in at 3500 lbs with myself and my big dog, the trailer was also 3500. No problem pulling but I do know that the trailer is behind me.
Marina
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3500 seems awfully light for a Tundra. My Subaru Outback weighs more than that with me in it.
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-Jesse
SOLD! - 1984 Scamp 13 in Maryland.
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03-06-2013, 05:00 AM
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#25
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Senior Member
Name: Jared
Trailer: 1984 19' scamp
Kansas
Posts: 1,610
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mcbrew
3500 seems awfully light for a Tundra. My Subaru Outback weighs more than that with me in it.
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Agreed, my '89nissan was 4300 lbs.
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03-06-2013, 09:40 AM
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#26
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Senior Member
Trailer: Class A Motorhome
Posts: 7,912
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You didn't mention which model Tundra you had or what model year, but empty curb weight for 2013 Tundra's, per Toyta.com, is 4500 to 5100 lbs. That, plus any peeps and equipment in the truck, plus the trailer puts you at or over 8500 lbs
I'd check your truck weight again
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03-06-2013, 06:00 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1977 TM14 Surfside / 2007 Toyota Tundra V8 2wd
Posts: 289
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mcbrew
3500 seems awfully light for a Tundra. My Subaru Outback weighs more than that with me in it.
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I thought it was a bit light also but when I put the truck on the scale, I left it on till the numbers stablized and it read 3500. When I take it out at the end of April, I will weight it again just to make sure it wasn't the scale. My Tundra is a 2007, 4.7, the smaller of the two Tundras. It also has a canopy on it.
Marina
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03-06-2013, 06:06 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 5,112
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This should help:
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03-06-2013, 06:06 PM
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#29
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Senior Member
Trailer: Class A Motorhome
Posts: 7,912
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Even the lightest 2007 Tundra is showing about 4350 dry weight on several sites. In as much as the scale stopped at the same exact even amount for both truck and trailer I would suspect a scale issue. Your 3500 Tundra is more like 5000 with driver, dog, canopy, a tank of fuel and "Stuff" aboard. You need to find certified scale and get a weigh ticket to be safe.
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03-06-2013, 06:11 PM
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#30
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Junior Member
Name: Hilda & Dick
Trailer: Scamp
New Hampshire
Posts: 6
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We have the Toyota Tacoma, 2 wheel drive, not the Toyota Tundra.
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03-06-2013, 06:34 PM
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#31
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Senior Member
Trailer: Class A Motorhome
Posts: 7,912
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Sorry for the confusion
Back about post #22 your topic got hijacked and a Tundra question was introduced. As you can see, Marinab was under the impression that a Tundra could weigh less than a Tacoma, hence the Tundra information.
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03-08-2013, 12:42 PM
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#32
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Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 61
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rhweiss
We are new to this site, thinking about purchasing a 16' Side Dinette Scamp. We have a 2 wheel drive. 2.7 L engine Toyota Tacoma Access Cab with a cap. We figure that the weight of the truck, cap and the 2 of us is in the vicinity of 5300 lbs. The owner's manual says the GCWR (which we understand to be the weight of the truck, trailer, people and gear) is 7440 lbs. Since the Scamp is about 2000 lbs without gear, water, whatever, we are concerned that the truck might not be able to tow the Scamp.
Will this combination work or are we going to be bogged down/over weight?
Thanks in advance for any advice you can give us.
Hilda & Dick
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I have a 87 Toyota 4x4 SR5 5 speed manual with extremely low mileage. It runs like new. I pull a 95 Scamp 13 footer easily at 60 to 65 on flat terrain. You can definitely feel it in the mountains, requiring shifting down to 3 or even 2 on steep grades. A 87 Toyota 22RE FI engine only had 116 hp in those days. I think pulling a 16 footer would be a stretch, depending on the new 4 cylinder horsepower. If you have a V6, then you would probably be OK.
In the future, we are upgrading to the Tundra just for more horsepower when we upgrade to a 16 footer. We will never sell the old truck - love it.
Regards.
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03-10-2013, 01:06 AM
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#33
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Member
Name: George
Trailer: 16' Scamp SD, TV: Tacoma 4cyl
Northern Wisconsin
Posts: 66
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rhweiss
We are new to this site, thinking about purchasing a 16' Side Dinette Scamp. We have a 2 wheel drive. 2.7 L engine Toyota Tacoma Access Cab with a cap. We figure that the weight of the truck, cap and the 2 of us is in the vicinity of 5300 lbs. The owner's manual says the GCWR (which we understand to be the weight of the truck, trailer, people and gear) is 7440 lbs. Since the Scamp is about 2000 lbs without gear, water, whatever, we are concerned that the truck might not be able to tow the Scamp.
Will this combination work or are we going to be bogged down/over weight?
Thanks in advance for any advice you can give us.
Hilda & Dick
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4cyl Taco is rated to tow 3500 lbs. I have towed somewhat more than that with my 2008 with no problems. Moved my who household 150 miles with a large trailer and the back of the truck loaded. We have a new 16' scamp we'll pick up in a few weeks and i don't anticipate any problems. Plan on driving one gear lower than normal, install a good brake controller and you'll be alright.
George
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03-10-2013, 07:16 AM
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#34
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Senior Member
Name: Wayne
Trailer: Airstream Sold, Nest Fan
Ontario
Posts: 2,002
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Another prospective....
The Toyota Tacoma cyl has 157HP / 180TQ
That is slightly more power than our old 93 Nissan Van. We had no problems with the 9,500lb total combination weight.
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03-10-2013, 07:39 AM
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#35
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Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 61
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rod P
I have a 87 Toyota 4x4 SR5 5 speed manual with extremely low mileage. It runs like new. I pull a 95 Scamp 13 footer easily at 60 to 65 on flat terrain. You can definitely feel it in the mountains, requiring shifting down to 3 or even 2 on steep grades. A 87 Toyota 22RE FI engine only had 116 hp in those days. I think pulling a 16 footer would be a stretch, depending on the new 4 cylinder horsepower. If you have a V6, then you would probably be OK.
In the future, we are upgrading to the Tundra just for more horsepower when we upgrade to a 16 footer. We will never sell the old truck - love it.
Regards.
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I found that the new 2012 4 cyl tacos have 159 hp verses my 116hp. I pull my boat too that weights in a 2000 pounds with trailer. I typically run at 60-65 in 4 gear or 5 gear, depending on the terrain. In 4th at 65 the engine rpm is only 300 higher at 3400 rpm. I then don't have to keep shifting down for hills as if running in 5th and it does not seem to make any difference in gas mileage, which is great.
I would not hestitate pulling the 16 footer with my old or a new taco. We would upgrade to a 16 foot Scamp but the top mounted A/C is too tall to fit under our garage door and we like storing the trailer inside.
Good luck.
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03-10-2013, 07:24 PM
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#36
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Commercial Member
Name: Charlie Y
Trailer: Escape 21 - Felicity
Oregon
Posts: 1,591
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Tacoma 4x4 4 banger
I pull a Casita 17LD around 3000 loaded and have no problems other than needing to run in lower gears headed over the mountains. Rating is 3500 pounds, seems to work fine and gets 18-19 mpg overall.
Charlie Y
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