Peter from the Bay Area

[Peter Hansen]

Hi,
I am the proud new owner of a ~1980 Scamp.
See:
http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...fer-45277.html

For everyone who wants to know. I was able to register the trailer in California without too much difficulty.
Now it's time to restore and I will ask a lot of questions

Thanks,
Peter

[Cyndi B.]

Welcome, Peter!

[Donna D.]

Welcome and congrats Peter!!

[Lizbeth]

Hi Peter! I'm glad you were able to save that trailer and get it back on the road.

[Ami P]

I noticed your location in the Bay area. Do you have any suggestions for overnighting within walking distance of public transportation into SF?
AP

[melissab]

You mean there was less bureaucratic red tape in CA than Nevada when it came to registering a trailer w/o a title? That is shocking. So I wonder if now that it's been registered in CA if you decide to sell it if the buyer will be able to register it in any state with no problem? Including Nevada? Would that be a legal way to get around title issues? Sell it to a resident of CA who registers it and then sells it back to the original owner who could then register it in their home state?

[Frederick L. Simson]

Originally Posted by Peter Hansen

Hi,
I am the proud new owner of a ~1980 Scamp.

For everyone who wants to know. I was able to register the trailer in California without too much difficulty.

Originally Posted by melissab

So I wonder if now that it's been registered in CA if you decide to sell it if the buyer will be able to register it in any state with no problem? Including Nevada? Would that be a legal way to get around title issues?

Unfortunately, maybe not... in all other States...
I have a speculation on this subject which may or may not be true.

I'm willing to bet that Peter got a PTI "registration" which does not include a Title. If your trailer obviously qualifies, and does not have a previous California "Trailer Coach" title, then it is relatively hassle free.

When I converted my Fiber Stream's classification from "Trailer Coach" to "Camp Trailer" in order to qualify for my "PTI" plates, the clerk was adamant about me understanding the quirk that now exists in California law.

A "regular" PTI registration is not a "Registration" of a titled property; it is an "Identification" of a vehicle that is legal to be towed on California roads. Legal semantics are very important here.
(Thus the "I" in "PTI")
No Title is required for the PTI program.
However, if you are surrendering a Title from a previous Registration (as I was) you have the OPTION TO PAY AN EXTRA $17 FEE TO MAINTAIN THAT TITLE. If you decline to exercise your option, then the trailer is IDENTIFIED without a TITLE. Any previous titles are purged from the DMV records, and the trailer will forevermore go without a title. California doesn't care about any other state's requirements, they've just taken care of their own problem. I doubt that Nevada will accept that trailer if they insist on having a Title even now. This trailer may now be sold within California, and any state that does NOT require a title.

If anyone knows different, I would be HAPPY to be proven wrong!

[Perry J]

Frederick, you are under a common misunderstanding of PTI or Paperless title registration.
With PTI registration you can get a title or Pink skip for an additional $16.00.
Several years ago I sold a 13' Boler to a person from San Francisco who never changed the title to his name.
He sold it to a lady from washington and gave her the paperless title transfer form that I gave him. Washington state would not accept it.
She contacted me, I went to DMV and paid for a paper title which I signed over to her and the problem was resolved.
John

[Lizbeth]

Interesting...I was basically told what Frederick was told that if I chose to not get a title when getting a PTI would be a big problem to get one at a later date so I chose to get one and I am glad I did.