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08-16-2017, 03:45 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Currently Shopping
Pennsylvania
Posts: 12
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RV in Canada
I am purchasing a travel trailer from a Canadian citizen - It is currently parked at a campground in Ontario, Canada
I want to leave it there - I live in Pennsylvania and will be using it from June to October, but leaving it at the campground
What must I do to keep it in Canada, plus any other regulations I must satisfy?
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08-16-2017, 04:01 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,926
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Welcome, Doug! Interesting question... Seems like one for your state motor vehicle department and US Customs.
I'm guessing you may have to bring it to PA at least once to complete the importation process and get ownership documents in your name. I'm not sure what happens later when you take it back into CAN and return without it. How old is the trailer? Is it road-worthy? Do you have a vehicle to tow it?
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08-16-2017, 04:03 PM
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Member
Name: ginette & ron
Trailer: 2008 25RB 21 Bigfoot
Ontario
Posts: 96
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If you are not moving it put of the campground and do not have the intention of travelling with it then it does not require registration.
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08-16-2017, 04:07 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,317
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Quote:
Originally Posted by giro53
If you are not moving it put of the campground and do not have the intention of travelling with it then it does not require registration.
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Until the owner of the campground changes or changes his mind or ups the rent or..
I'd at least import it to the US after purchase.
You might have an issue with insuring it. I know of one fellow who wanted to leave his trailer in Canada and pick it up in the spring. His insurer said they would not cover it in storage. He could drive all over Canada and they would insure it, just not in storage.
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08-16-2017, 05:25 PM
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Member
Name: Linda
Trailer: Scamp 1992 13'
Washington
Posts: 35
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I have never brought a trailer over the border but on Fiberglass RV 4 sale website, there was an article discussing what is required to bring it into the US. You should check with customs and I for sure would NOT leave it in Canada.
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08-16-2017, 05:28 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Currently Shopping
Pennsylvania
Posts: 12
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Jon in AZ
I think the age of the trailer is about 3 - 4 years
I understand it is quite road worthy
No I do not have a vehicle which would tow this trailer
Thanks for your comments!
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08-16-2017, 05:31 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Currently Shopping
Pennsylvania
Posts: 12
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giro53
Thanks your comment concerning leaving it in Canada nd not moving it
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08-16-2017, 05:32 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Currently Shopping
Pennsylvania
Posts: 12
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Glenn
Thanks for your comments
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08-16-2017, 05:33 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Currently Shopping
Pennsylvania
Posts: 12
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Lady Scamp
Thanks for your comments
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08-16-2017, 08:25 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Lisa
Trailer: Boler 1700
Michigan
Posts: 130
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I would talk to your Department of motor vehicles about what they require. At least in Michigan there is a deadline after the purchase to get it registered. Need to have it imported to register and get plates. Need to bring it to the border to import it.
I for one would never buy a trailer and not get it legal titled or registered in my name. It could be difficult to sell later on. Not sure about Pennsylvania, but MI is quite insistent about getting paid their sales tax and registeration fees.
We have taken a trailer to Ontario and left it there for a month while getting it worked on. Other time was a week. Customs didn't have a problem with us bringing a retro Canadian trailer to Canada and leaving it there to get worked on. Other than thinking we were quite strange.
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08-16-2017, 08:39 PM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: 1996 Casita 17 Spirit Deluxe; 1946 Modernistic teardrop
New York
Posts: 5,413
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I have heard, and actually had an ongoing discussion with a member here, that PA can be a real hassle on registering a trailer from another state. I know of at least one PA resident that does vintage trailer restorations and then registers them in Maine. Now if the trailer in Canada is fairly cheap, and will be left there for many years and not moved, the best end result may be to just walk away and abandon it, or sell it in place.
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08-16-2017, 08:56 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Daniel A.
Trailer: Bigfoot 17.0 1991 dlx
British Columbia
Posts: 741
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I've known a few people that do that both ways,Canada & USA without any problems other than insurance as you need the trailer registered in your name for insurance. I don't think that can be done without physically taking it across the boarder. Once registered you can leave it anywhere you like.
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08-17-2017, 02:56 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Shopping
Ontario
Posts: 1
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Buying and Leaving a Trailer in Canada
Many people I know from Michigan buy trailers in Canada and leave them there. Just buy your insurance there if you are not going to be moving it. That is how folks with park models handle it. Talk to a Canadian Insurance agent.
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08-17-2017, 05:43 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Tom
Trailer: Sprinter 'til I buy
Denver, CO
Posts: 944
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I'm pretty sure Michigan, and the other 49 states would all love for you to write them checks. Not so fast. What authority do they have over a possession not only outside their state, but outside the country? Probably none, unless you move it. If it were in fact real property, what say would they have? I am not a lawyer. Are they going to extradite your trailer from Canada?
I liked GiRo's response, and I think I'd focus on keeping Ontario happy, registration wise.
Also, consider getting a written agreement with the trailer park owner that would give you a reasonable specified time to relocate the trailer if the park is sold. It might be worth paying a Canadian lawyer to draw it up. What about giant rent increases?
I trust you have satisfied yourself that the trailer will be secure, and that the trailer park owner is not renting it out from November to May.
Good luck.
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08-18-2017, 05:43 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Currently Shopping
Pennsylvania
Posts: 12
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Lisa
Thanks for your take on things - I was thinking along the same lines
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08-18-2017, 05:46 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Currently Shopping
Pennsylvania
Posts: 12
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Mary and Bob
You have a slightly different take on things - Which is good for discussion - Several others I have spoken with agree with what you are saying - Just want to make sure I don't make my life harder when attempting to make it easier
Thanks!
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08-18-2017, 05:50 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Currently Shopping
Pennsylvania
Posts: 12
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Daniel
You are saying what I have heard from others - Sounds like this could be a very tricky undertaking
I am going to be doing a lot of checking with PA and Canada in an attempt to weed things out
Thanks!
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08-18-2017, 05:52 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Currently Shopping
Pennsylvania
Posts: 12
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whaleyddd
I am currently attempting to get hooked up with a Canadian Insurance Agent to sift this out
Thanks!
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08-18-2017, 05:59 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Currently Shopping
Pennsylvania
Posts: 12
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Tom 72
I agree with most, if not all, of your thoughts, especially the one about the trailer park Owner selling the park, getting a signed agreement about specific time to move the unit if the park is sold and rent increases
I've spoken with several of the campers and they say the Owner is great and has Owned the park for about 20 years - He has 4 kids that he says will carry on the family business - I feel pretty secure with things concerning the park & the Owner, but better safe than sorry
Thanks for your insight!
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08-18-2017, 06:51 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Gordon
Trailer: 2015 Scamp (16 Std Layout 4) with '15 Toyota Sienna LE Tug
North Carolina
Posts: 5,155
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This might not be on topic, but IMHO, it is not practical to own a TRAVEL trailer so far away. A vacation home requires a lot of maintenance, or a local maintenance company to handle things, but a TRAVEL trailer requires even more upkeep. Unless you have a trusted person or company that is local to the camper and who can keep an eye on it and fix things as needed, the camper will fall into disrepair fairly quickly. It only takes one undetected leak to cause a lot of damage. You did not mention the make but many molded fiberglass campers cannot tolerate excessive snow load on the roof.. who will deal with that? Perhaps it is possible, especially if you can store it in a garage, but again, it is my opinion that this idea is fraught with potential pitfalls.
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