Tariffs

[glens2422]

I recently placed an order for a Bigfoot 25RQ in December for a March delivery at Trailer World in Denver. Just wondering if anyone had any experience with increase in prices after contracting a new build on any of the fiberglass trailers made in Canada?

I'm hoping nothing goes into effect until after March but I think unpredictability in going to be the norm for the next 4 years. Anyone else have thoughts or experience in tariff issues on Canadian products?

[Bill in Pittsburgh]

Tariffs are scheduled to begin Sunday.
God help us for we have been the fool.

[Jon in AZ]

Have you asked the dealer? They've been through this before.

[ShelbyM]

Still promised for 2/01. Lots of popular cars are built in Canada and Mexico, hard to see the customers being happy to shell out 25% more $. Will be interesting....

[Dudley]

We will all find out tomorrow what your country is going to do. If you are bringing it into the US you will probably have to pay the tariff as you cross the boarder. Just remember please that this has NOTHING to do with Canada or Bigfoot and let your congressman and senator know just what you think of this! With enough pressure on your government, they may just figure out how bad an idea it is.

[ShelbyM]

Looks to be all imports with "energy related" imports from Canada being only 10%.

[floyd]

Originally Posted by glens2422

I recently placed an order for a Bigfoot 25RQ in December for a March delivery at Trailer World in Denver. Just wondering if anyone had any experience with increase in prices after contracting a new build on any of the fiberglass trailers made in Canada?

I'm hoping nothing goes into effect until after March but I think unpredictability in going to be the norm for the next 4 years. Anyone else have thoughts or experience in tariff issues on Canadian products?

YEP!And I'm sure we didn't have enough "unpredictability" in the last four years? Just how much did the price of your new trailer go up in the last four years? WE surely have had enough politics in the last year though.
Don't you think!

[ShelbyM]

With stopping illegal immigrants and fentanyl being the stated goal, seems like carefully searching each Bigfoot and Escape as it crosses the border would have been more to the point.

[John in Santa Cruz]

maximum chaos seems to be the actual goal.

[Mike Magee]

Avoiding the tariff would have been easy enough. Just promise to take greater measures to stop the flow of immigrants and drugs across the border. It seems like a no-brainer. Why the leaders of Mexico and Canada would prefer tariffs to doing the right thing is a puzzler, but hopefully they will re-think their choice.

[John in Santa Cruz]

if we can't stop them from coming in, why should we expect someone else to be able to stop them from going out?

[C&G in FL]

Originally Posted by Mike Magee

Avoiding the tariff would have been easy enough. Just promise to take greater measures to stop the flow of immigrants and drugs across the border. It seems like a no-brainer. Why the leaders of Mexico and Canada would prefer tariffs to doing the right thing is a puzzler, but hopefully they will re-think their choice.

Is it not now nor has it ever been the responsibility of Canadian or Mexican border officials to stop the flow of immigrants and drugs flowing across the border? When I cross into Canada, no U.S. customs agent has ever stopped me and asked me if I had any weapons that are illegal in Canada, but I have been asked that by Canadian border agents every time I have crossed into Canada, without exception. And when I leave Canada, I am not stopped on the Canadian side of the border to make sure I will not be trying to bring drugs or migrants with me into the United States. That is the responsibility of U.S. agents. It seems to me that tariffs are a cop out which will inflate prices for almost everyone, but will have very little effect on the supposed problem. One might even say that tariffs are a smoke screen to cover an inefficient or incomplete review at the border, which results in the problem. The tariffs put in place are claimed to be necessary to “protect us.” With bird flu looming, what is going to be done to protect us from another pandemic? Birds freely fly across the borders daily, bringing who knows what kind of virulence with them. The proponents of these tariffs have already shown disdain for health safety in past actions. As far as I am concerned, if someone wants to take fentanyl (and die) it is simply Darwinism at its best. Personally, I prefer hard working migrant farm workers as neighbors rather than drug addicts.

[ShelbyM]

I agree, let Darwin deal with the druggies. FWIW, WSJ says "Dumbest trade war in history."

[Dudley]

Originally Posted by Mike Magee

Avoiding the tariff would have been easy enough. Just promise to take greater measures to stop the flow of immigrants and drugs across the border. It seems like a no-brainer. Why the leaders of Mexico and Canada would prefer tariffs to doing the right thing is a puzzler, but hopefully they will re-think their choice.

Last year the US Customs found about 42 LBs of the stuff coming in from Canada. A 2020 DEA report doesn't even mention Canada other than a small arrow on a drawing. It is not against the law to walk right up to the border between Canada and the USA and in fact the border can run right down the middle of a town like Beebe Quebec, where the towns auditorium has a line down the middle! It very easy to be driving dirt roads in the region and find yourself crossing into the US without realizing it. There where US taxi companies that were dropping off migrants at your side of the border called Roxham Road to cross illegally to the point that Canada had to build a temporary RCMP/immigration office there and this is only one very small section of the longest border in the world. Trust me when I say, we want the stuff gone as much as you do! Also trust me when I say, these tariffs have NOTHING to do with drugs just as Greenland has nothing to do with security. Sorry for the rant from a tired Canadian who grew up as an air force brat on NORAD bases in Canada and USA and whose father fought the Cold War for 28 years both in Canada and the USA, side by side with American servicemen!

[Iowa Dave]

Deportation Reminds me of the George Jones classic. https://www.google.com/search?q=whos...s-wiz-hp#ebo=0

Back in the days of nuclear proliferation we used to have drills in the classroom that were called “Duck and cover”
Wise guys that we were we would write on the fly leaf of a book
In case of a nuclear attack, bend over, put your head between your legs and kiss you a.. goodbye.
Iowa Dave

[Dudley]

Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz

if we can't stop them from coming in, why should we expect someone else to be able to stop them from going out?

Thank you John!

[jerrybob]

If Mexico is paying for the wall and China and Canada are paying the tariffs.....do you think I can get someone to pay my bills?

[C&G in FL]

Originally Posted by jerrybob

If Mexico is paying for the wall and China and Canada are paying the tariffs.....do you think I can get someone to pay my bills?

You might want to check with Elon. I understand he has taken over the Treasury Department.

[Bill in Pittsburgh]

Originally Posted by C&G in FL

You might want to check with Elon. I understand he has taken over the Treasury Department.

As an Economics and Public Administration major in college I see tariffs as one of the very few factors that is within government control to raise or lower consumer prices. Nearly all other factors that control consumer prices are out of the control of our government. In a global economy prices are the result of factors that we can only try to manipulate a little with limited results. Other factors such as supply chain and the strengths or weaknesses of global economies have much larger effect.
i.e. cost of eggs cannot be blamed on our government. However, increased consumer prices can be directly connected to tariffs. So all we can do is wait and see how this fiasco works out.
Continued tariffs will not be limited to price increases for trailers but will send prices spiraling across the board on most consumer goods having a negative impact in the US as well as Canada, Mexico and other countries we trade with.
P.S. For the record I never applied for a job in my life nor did anyone I have ever known not get a position because an immigrant did.

[Mike Magee]

Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz

if we can't stop them from coming in, why should we expect someone else to be able to stop them from going out?

US Customs and Border Patrol managed to nab almost 200,000 of them during last fiscal year. But how many didn't get caught? Too many.

If the neighbor's dog comes over every day and does his business on my lawn, is it not the responsibility of a good neighbor to keep his dog out of my yard? Unfortunately, some neighbors want to wash their hands of all responsibility and say, "It's on you to police your own lawn, not me." That is not how good neighbors act.

So the US has provided a financial incentive to encourage its neighbors to step up and help out. The US is doing what needs to be done; it's painful but necessary, because if neighbors don't work together to fix problems, the problems get worse and fester.