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Old 10-13-2017, 08:46 AM   #161
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Lisa, you're doing great! keep up the good work. you'll have it rewired in no time and what a sense of accomplishment. keep us informed of your progress, i'm really enjoying reading what you've done so far and look forward to the completed project.........
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:07 AM   #162
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Thanks all for the support, I am going to hold off a couple of days, seems I wrenched my back by tugging, and contorting while pulling and then later crawling under the tow vehicle.
I have a doctor appt. this morning.
Though I might tackle the little easy stuff I can do in a chair. It will depend what the doctor says and if they can stop the sharp pain.
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Old 10-14-2017, 07:52 AM   #163
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My doctor had me get an x-ray at the hospital next door to his office. Seems I have a fracture and I have to get a referral to an orthopedic doctor. On some pain meds now. I will rest per his suggestion.
Working on the Scamp didn't cause it, I have some degeneration which is the reason I'm temporarily off work, but that was in my neck, this is in my back.
Worst case scenario for the Scamp would be having someone come out to do the work. I do have supplies coming from a generous member here (thank you), so I'd only have to pay for labor.
But, if the meds kick in and I feel better in the next couple of days, I'm going to get to it again.
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Old 10-14-2017, 09:31 AM   #164
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after 3 back surgeries all my life in pain I feel for you. I am 75 you know by the way! I have had all of it including putting in rods cleaning out all sorts of stuff fusion 8 hour operation. Then 2 years later doing it all over again because I had a herniated disc show up.

very very painful stuff just getting over most of the pain now! I don't know what to tell you there is no answer. Take the meds don't do much and don't think you can tough it out without help!

be very careful of the pain meds they are sneaky!

good luck

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Old 10-14-2017, 09:35 AM   #165
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after 3 back surgeries all my life in pain I feel for you. I am 75 you know by the way! I have had all of it including putting in rods cleaning out all sorts of stuff fusion 8 hour operation. Then 2 years later doing it all over again because I had a herniated disc show up.

very very painful stuff just getting over most of the pain now! I don't know what to tell you there is no answer. Take the meds don't do much and don't think you can tough it out without help!

be very careful of the pain meds they are sneaky!

good luck

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Right now this pain med has my head feeling very foggy and weird, but so far it isn't helping the sharp pains in my back.
I'm only on my second pill, it is Tramadol 50mg. Label says I can take up to 3 a day. I don't like to take pills generally, but I will take these and hope the pain goes away.
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Old 10-14-2017, 09:41 AM   #166
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lisa sorry to say that stuff is junk I have taken it it does no good for me but I take the higher power stuff.

if you get no relief from this pill notify your specialist when you go to him. He will be very cautious you need to be cautious taking it.

my label says 2 every 6 hours no way I am now to 1/2 pill as needed. you will need help to get better over this!

If you haven't damaged your back too bad you will get better but while you are in the middle of it you are going to hurt very bad.

oh I just remembered I keep the flexible freezer packs on my back. you can get them off amazon they help me a lot. my surgeon doesn't like them but an old time nurse in recovery put them on after my surgery and oh such relief!

Take all this from an old pro in the back pain business!!

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Old 10-14-2017, 12:42 PM   #167
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Hook up your trailer and take it to a large empty parking lot. Disconnect your 4 pin connector and put a new fuse in your battery line that keeps blowing. Now carefully drive around the parking lot without avoiding speed bumps, bumps, or dips, rack up a couple of miles and see if you blow the fuse.

Also after the fuse is blown do your trailer lights work properly when hooked up to the truck?
To save fuses, and get a visual indicator, replace the fuse with a 12V lamp (you may need a socket & clips). The lamp will light when the wire is shorted, but limits the current enough so no damage will occur. A good way to do a "wiggle the wires" check.
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Old 10-14-2017, 01:06 PM   #168
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fuses and such

jon good suggestion but she needs a trailer wire guy so bad!

a guy who knows his stuff can find that in 1/2 hour!

I am sure her dad knows a guy she just have to ask!

bob

If she was closer I would go help her myself!

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Old 10-15-2017, 04:13 PM   #169
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Update:
Had some help today and got the rear benches out.
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Old 10-15-2017, 04:24 PM   #170
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Now that will make it a whole bunch easier. But I thought you are resting don't go throwing 2 backs out.
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Old 10-15-2017, 04:27 PM   #171
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Now that will make it a whole bunch easier. But I thought you are resting don't go throwing 2 backs out.
So true! Though I have found some relief using this product:
https://www.amazon.com/Icy-Hot-Smart...icy%2Bhot&th=1

No meds were helping, but this little gadget at least got my spirits back up and wanting to tackle the project again.
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Old 10-15-2017, 05:01 PM   #172
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good job but I know how hard those are to get out! YOu have no business doing that but like me your are hardheaded!

finally guess where all that got me?

I sent you a p/m

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Old 10-15-2017, 06:22 PM   #173
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I took on a supervisory position with the removal of those benches.
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Old 10-15-2017, 06:27 PM   #174
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So true! Though I have found some relief using this product:
https://www.amazon.com/Icy-Hot-Smart...icy%2Bhot&th=1

No meds were helping, but this little gadget at least got my spirits back up and wanting to tackle the project again.
I use mineral ice 3 - 4 times a day.

Since your working againt Dr orders. I will send you my next novel. If I am not helping just let me know.

Looking at your scamp wiring diagram. On the lower left of the drawing you see 7 colors of straight horizontal lines going through a vertical heavy black line. Those horizontal colored lines are your new 7 wire trailer cord. The heavy black verticle line is the front fiberglass wall of the trailer. If you follow the horizontal black and white lines as they go through the verticle heavy black line representing the trailer wall you will see round black dot and white dot on the lines. These dots represent junction points ( connections ) .

This black line is your trailer 12 volt dc positive wire. The black line from the black dot connection goes up to the battery needs a fuse holder with a 20 amp fuse and a terminal ring to hook up to the battery. You want the fuse holder very close to the battery. This is your battery supply and battery charge wire.

From the black dot is another black wire with a 20 amp fuse in it. You want this fuse close to the black dot. This is your main 12 volt dc battery power for your trailer use. This wire carries the power to and from your trailer converter. See your converter wiring picture ( from page 6 post 43 of this thread ) the black 12 volt dc wire ends up connected to post C in the converter panel.

Now the white wire comming from your 7 pin trailer cord ( horizontal white wire going through the vertical heavy black line of the trailer ) this is your trailer 12 volt dc negative white wire. At the white dot ( connections ) one white wire goes up to your trailer battery. This connection compleats the negative side of your battery charge, connects the 12 volt dc battery negative to the car and trailer negative circuts. The other white wire connected at the white dot goes to the converter panel ( from page 6 post 43 of this thread ) the white 12 volt dc negative ends up connected to post D in your converter panel. And on to the frame under your trailer.

Now for the other colors in your trailer cord. Follow the horizontal colored lines through the heavy black line representing the trailer wall. Where you see the first black dot with the white dot under it i want you to put a brown dot on the brown line, a red dot on the red line, a yellow dot on the yellow line, a green dot on the green line, a blue dot on the blue line. All these dots on a straight verticle placement with the black and white dots on the wiring diagram page.

Once you pencil in the dots draw a long narrow box around the 7 colored dots. This box represents your new junction box. The dots are the posts in the box where the wires are connected together. You connect your black trailer cord wire to the black wire in your trailer. White to white, brown to brown and so on. See picture on page 9 post 124 of this thread.

Just remember where you see 2 wires of the same color cross and there is a round dot that is a connection. In most cases Scamp used a square plastic Scotch loc connector or wire nut to connect the wire joint. See picture page 7 post 92

I hope this helps.
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Old 10-15-2017, 06:39 PM   #175
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I hope this helps.
YES! It helps very much! Thank you!
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Old 10-15-2017, 07:21 PM   #176
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2 things of note the only time I have blown fuses in my Scamp.

When I put in my fantastic fan I was testing it with the fan on loving my new install. Feelin proud after all the hassels to get in and operational. Then I turned it off and reversed it to blow in instead of out. I didnt quite let the fan stop before reversing the switch and turning it back on. As soon as I turned it on the fuse blowed. Note to self make sure fan is stopped and off before reversing the fan direction.

The second time I made the fuse blow but it wasn't quite my fault Scamp set me up or at least the light manufacturer did.
I wanted to conserve battery power so I added Led panels in my Scamp light fixtures. The square lights at the ends of the overhead sink cabinet are plastic and insulated from conductive surfaces. Back in the day with incandasent bulbs they don't care the polaraity of power going through the bulb. So the light manufacturer used 2 black wires for the light connection. Scamp just hooked up one 12 volt positive black wire to a black wire on the light fixture. They then hooked up one negative white wire to the other black wire on the light fixture.

I plugged in the replacement led panel with a bulb adapter. Bulbs are polarity correct with the center pole being positive and the outside shell negative. The led panels are made with this assumption. But since these fixtures were made before the aliens gave us their technology it didn't matter to how they were wired but with led it does.

So turn on the light with the led panel installed and pow there goes a fuse. Took me a while to solve that simple little problem since at the time I didn't quite make the connection between the futureistic alien technology and my analog Scamp.
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Old 10-16-2017, 04:18 PM   #177
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Sometimes you just have to cut all the wires.
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Old 10-16-2017, 06:23 PM   #178
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Fuse Under front Bunk on Scamp and shorting out

Getting wires ready for the junction box.
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Old 10-16-2017, 06:42 PM   #179
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Half way there. At this time I'm only doing the new tow vehicle wiring. Tackle this first for confidence, then start on trailer rewire.
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Old 10-16-2017, 06:49 PM   #180
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