Photo request of wiring area at refrigerator hatch for Scamp - Fiberglass RV


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Old 10-08-2017, 07:20 AM   #1
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Photo request of wiring area at refrigerator hatch for Scamp

I have a short in my Scamp wiring system, that seems quite likely to be at the refrigerator area, behind that vent opening.
I am requesting photos of that area so that I can compare my wiring to yours. I just want to see what it should look like.

Here is the area I'm talking about (just inside the hatch):


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Old 10-08-2017, 07:56 AM   #2
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lisa i would unhook that fridge wiring first remember where the wires were. do that first and get back to us

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Old 10-08-2017, 08:21 AM   #3
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k0wtz, thankfully I think my short is gone, but I cannot be certain until I drive it for a longer distance, over railroad tracks etc.
The short no longer showed up once I jiggled those wires and tugged at them to take the photo you see above.

I'm curious if I should just put some good 3M electrical tape around those wires and yellow connectors?
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Old 10-08-2017, 05:32 PM   #4
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I have a short in my Scamp wiring system, that seems quite likely to be at the refrigerator area, behind that vent opening.
I am requesting photos of that area so that I can compare my wiring to yours. I just want to see what it should look like.

Here is the area I'm talking about (just inside the hatch):


Thank you.
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Looks like it needs a good cleaning. The dirt could cause a problem
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Old 10-08-2017, 05:49 PM   #5
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Looks like it needs a good cleaning. The dirt could cause a problem
I agree. I did take some canned air that I use inside computer towers and blew a lot of dust out of there, but I wonder what I can clean the area with? I thought water was not a good idea.
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:14 PM   #6
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If you have a shop vac that would be good, or a strong vacuum with a hand wand, and get a lot of the dust out. Dust is not a conductor so not likely that the dust is hurting much electrically, except when it gets wet. But with is dirty it is hard to see what the wires look like.

The yellow connectors are possible to be the problem, especially if they area little loose and possible touching something they shouldn't. I noticed several are connecting multiple colors, and that really isn't a good thing, each color should really be continuous, and insulated the whole way.
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Old 10-08-2017, 07:22 PM   #7
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Check the wires to see if they have rubbed through to bare wire. I see a couple spots where they are against metal.
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Old 10-08-2017, 07:37 PM   #8
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I'm in that area and I found another culprit, not sure if I just made that happen by pulling on it or not. It's possible it was rubbing the copper LP gas line that is down there:



Not sure why this green wire is bigger than the others.


I'm thinking about calling the RV repair guy that comes to your door. He gets some good reviews. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to just get an estimate. I'll let you know what happens.


You can see the LP gas line in this photo:
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Looks like you found the problem
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I agree. I did take some canned air that I use inside computer towers and blew a lot of dust out of there, but I wonder what I can clean the area with? I thought water was not a good idea.
We blow ours out with a vacuum cleaner or compressor. If necessary you could wipe off dirt stuck on places with a damp rag.
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Old 10-17-2017, 05:42 AM   #11
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those connectors go to a piece of extension cord, that is not rated for permanent wiring, that type of cord will deteriorate over time, I would try to trace it back and see if it can be replaced. if it is a 12 volt DC circuit, then replace with automotive wire, if it is 110v AC circuit, then it should be replaced with NMW wire with proper connectors and a junction box
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those connectors go to a piece of extension cord, that is not rated for permanent wiring, that type of cord will deteriorate over time, I would try to trace it back and see if it can be replaced. if it is a 12 volt DC circuit, then replace with automotive wire, if it is 110v AC circuit, then it should be replaced with NMW wire with proper connectors and a junction box
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I believe those connectors are used in auto or RV 12 volt wiring. Not my first choice though. They are not big enough for extension cords. They are not heavy duty enough for this job. Would be ok for something like a light. I agree with the wire to use.
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Old 10-17-2017, 06:45 PM   #13
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That white , Black, green grey jacket core is probably tied to the 120 volt to your fridge. follow it back and you will find it goes to your breaker. Be very careful around 120 volt AC lines. Look at your wiring diagram. I would take a picture of my wiring but I wont see daylight and the trailer until this weekend.
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Old 10-17-2017, 07:31 PM   #14
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Thanks all for the additional input.
I won't be able to work on this until 4 or 5 days from now, but I will reference what you say.
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Old 10-17-2017, 09:02 PM   #15
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First step disconnect the power from the lines.

Then you can clean and wrap that area of the wire that has some damage to the insulation using vinyl electrical tape.

Put that area of the RV on your list of annual cleaning chores

It is not all that difficult of a job to learn how to install good quality electrical crimps on wire. You do need a special pair of pliers for it but they are not expensive. The crimps are color coated by wire size but they work on a range of sizes. Just go to a neighborhood type of hardware store. The clerks there will sort you out with the right tools and fittings and if you go on a slow day they may be able to give you a DIY lesson right there in the store But if not just head to youtube where there will be dozens of online tutorials showing how to use the tool to install crimp on connectors.

Making good wire connections would be an excellent subject for hands-on lessons at the various FGRV rallies. You don't need to teach the full on electrical systems, just little stuff like this is valuable knowledge that is not overwhelming to teach as a quick lesson.

Quite easy to do, don't be afraid to try. Get some extra crimps and scrap wire to practice with. Much less expensive to get some practice materials and tools than having a mobile RV service pay a house call Plus then you will be ready to handle these minor electrical situations in your vehicles.
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