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01-08-2018, 07:23 PM
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Member
Name: Peg
Trailer: 1995 Scamp
Wy & Az
Posts: 63
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THREE LIGHTS OUT
What’s the chance that all the led bulbs are bad in my three lights over the bed/dinette in a 2015 Casita? I’ve looked for a fuse to explain why none of them work. What am I missing?
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01-08-2018, 07:24 PM
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: Escape 21, behind an '02 F250 7.3 diesel tug
Mid Left Coast
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swap a good bulb from another socket, that would answer your question.
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01-08-2018, 07:33 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 2010
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Hello Peg and welcome to the forum. Any chance your lights are a Bargman 47 84 410 and look like this?
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01-08-2018, 07:46 PM
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Member
Name: Peg
Trailer: 1995 Scamp
Wy & Az
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No, they’re white covers w yellow led bulbs
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01-08-2018, 07:52 PM
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Senior Member
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Then John's suggestion is a good one. Unfortunately many LED fixtures are sold as one piece, one component goes bad you must replace everything. When mine failed I found the cheapest replacements at Amazon. Good luck, Raz
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01-08-2018, 08:35 PM
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: Escape 21, behind an '02 F250 7.3 diesel tug
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are you talking about interior or exterior LEDs here? when you said over the bed, I assumed you meant the interior lights.
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01-08-2018, 10:43 PM
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Member
Name: Peg
Trailer: 1995 Scamp
Wy & Az
Posts: 63
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Yes, the three in the back above the windows. Good idea about a swap-I’ll try it tomorrow.
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01-09-2018, 03:12 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jack L
Trailer: Sold the Bigfoot 17-Looking for a new one
Washington
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Did they work and stop working, or did they always not work?
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01-09-2018, 06:37 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pegski
....... three lights over the bed/dinette in a 2015 Casita?
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Missed that. Obviously the light I showed is a tail light. I've had three go bad. It's my understanding Casita used the same light.
Most likely your lights are bad but plug a good bulb in to verify the wiring is good. Unlike incandescent bulbs, LEDs require support electronics to operate. The least expensive use a simple resistor. Unfortunately this makes them voltage sensitive. When your charger increases the voltage up towards 14 volts they "cook" and eventually fail. Look for replacements that have a built in voltage regulator. Two hundred fifty lumens is a good brightness. Soft white is good for reading. Cool white for tasks.
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01-09-2018, 06:58 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: Amerigo FG-16
North Carolina
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If all three lights quit at the same time it could be a wiring issue. If it's possible to remove a light & check for voltage/ground at the light, that will guide you in your troubleshooting.
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01-09-2018, 09:53 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Gordon
Trailer: 2015 Scamp (16 Std Layout 4) with '15 Toyota Sienna LE Tug
North Carolina
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pegski
Yes, the three in the back above the windows. Good idea about a swap-I’ll try it tomorrow.
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Cross referencing this to your Fan problem because I am almost sure you have bad wiring based on the lights involved.
You can also remove the wire nuts inside the cabinets (that connect to the lights) and use a meter to check for power. Thats slightly more reliable method then using incandescent bulbs in the fixture since it by passes any possible problem in the fixture. I'll bet a six-pack you have no power in the wiring (and I don't give up my beer easily).
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01-09-2018, 08:50 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Traveler
Trailer: Happier Camper
Utah
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any chance the three lights turn on with one switch or remote on the wall? If so, remove the cover on the remote and change the battery.
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01-09-2018, 09:14 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jann
Trailer: Casita
Colorado
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pegski
What’s the chance that all the led bulbs are bad in my three lights over the bed/dinette in a 2015 Casita? I’ve looked for a fuse to explain why none of them work. What am I missing?
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Did you find the fuse for the lights? If not look until you find the one that runs them. If fuse looks good, trade a good one out with it since it is hard to tell or they can look good but not be good. If fuse is good then you have a bad wire most likely.
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01-10-2018, 12:04 AM
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Member
Name: Peg
Trailer: 1995 Scamp
Wy & Az
Posts: 63
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Tried a good bulb in the “bad” light and no go so it might be wiring of some sort. I didn’t see any kind of fuse for these lights. Where would that be located? Are these lights connected in some way to the fan? All this talk of wiring is kind of over my head. Who should I take it to to check it out? Would I use a “volt meter” to check the socket?
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01-10-2018, 12:05 AM
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Member
Name: Peg
Trailer: 1995 Scamp
Wy & Az
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Lights are all separate
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01-10-2018, 01:58 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Dave
Trailer: Casita SD17 2006 "Missing Link"
California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pegski
Lights are all separate
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Peg, your 12 V fuses are on the power converter along with the 120V breakers. The FF & some lights are on one fuse, check that one first, 15A. The rangehood, bath fan & other lights are on a different 15A fuse. If the bath lights work, pull that 15A fuse and use it to check the other light circuit for a blown fuse.
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01-10-2018, 04:59 AM
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I would start at the battery and wring out the circuits. If battery voltage is good, then check all line side (the side going to the devices) voltage of the fuses, especially the circuit going to the lights and fan that are a problem. If you find all have power, then there is a problem with the wiring somewhere.
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01-10-2018, 05:51 AM
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: Escape 21, behind an '02 F250 7.3 diesel tug
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what borrego says, at least first. check the fuses in the power panel...
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01-10-2018, 06:50 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Gordon
Trailer: 2015 Scamp (16 Std Layout 4) with '15 Toyota Sienna LE Tug
North Carolina
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pegski
... Who should I take it to to check it out? ...
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I doubt you need to pay anyone to work on this... at least not more than a pizza. No doubt there are a few people in your circle of friends and family who have some experience in low voltage wiring, even if it is not Casita (or Scamp or any R/V) specific. Anyone who owns a camper of any kind and tends to do their own electrical maintenance or upgrades should be able to deal with this. Do you know any ham radio people? Do any of the neighbors have a R/V? You can at least ask them if this is something they think they could figure out.
+1 for a fuse being the most likely issue, with a broken or failed connection #2.
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01-10-2018, 08:54 AM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: Was A-Liner now 13f Scamp
Missouri
Posts: 3,209
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fuse location
your fuses are going to be located under one of your seats the fuses will be off your converter. I would say the converter will be in the back and yes you have a fuse out I would guess.
good luck
bob
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