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Mike Kelley 04-28-2015 07:45 AM

Oliver or Escape
 
Does anyone in Northern California or Nevada have an Oliver or Escape they would be willing show?
My search for a Bigfoot is proving to be very difficult and am considering alternatives.

Jim Bennett 04-28-2015 07:54 AM

Mike, I know if you contact Escape, they will set you up with a local owner for viewing. I would imagine Oliver will do the same.

Ron Merritt 04-28-2015 08:02 AM

Yes, Oliver has a network of Owners that have agreed to show their units when asked.

Mike Kelley 04-28-2015 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bennett (Post 518653)
Mike, I know if you contact Escape, they will set you up with a local owner for viewing. I would imagine Oliver will do the same.

Thanks Jim, I knew that, but figured I'd ask here first. That's how we first viewed a Casita.

Carol H 04-28-2015 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Kelley (Post 518652)
Does anyone in Northern California or Nevada have an Oliver or Escape they would be willing show?
My search for a Bigfoot is proving to be very difficult and am considering alternatives.

Its unfortunate you where not able to take a trip up to the Oregon Gathering last week-end there were about 10 Escapes present. Would have given you a chance to see the different owners preferences as to interior layouts they choose.

Mike Kelley 04-28-2015 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Carol H (Post 518674)
Its unfortunate you where not able to take a trip up to the Oregon Gathering last week-end there were about 10 Escapes present. Would have given you a chance to see the different owners preferences as to interior layouts they choose.

Was that the 25th and 26th or the previous weekend. I was in Oregon at the Bigfoot dealer the previous weekend 18th and 19th.
MK

Bob Leighton 04-28-2015 02:08 PM

Have an Oliver
 
Mike, I have an Oliver. Live in St. Helena, Ca. Napa Valley north of San Francisco.

Mike Kelley 04-28-2015 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Leighton (Post 518748)
Mike, I have an Oliver. Live in St. Helena, Ca. Napa Valley north of San Francisco.

That is what I wanted. I think you are on the map of owners willing to show from Oliver website. I was hoping you would respond instead of calling Oliver.
I'd love to view it.
I'll send a private message with my contact info

gaiusg 05-13-2015 09:33 PM

The Oliver is truly the Lamborghini of fiberglass trailers. I hope their claim about 4 seasons is correct - especially with regard to condensation.
We had a 19 ft Escape and were caught in a blizzard in Utah. We paid extra for dual pane windows and the insulation package, plus extra for the under-coach foam spray and tank heating pads.
In spite of these extras (about $2,000 or so added expense), the coach struggled to keep warm. Even with a dehumidifier blasting, there were BUCKETS of water pouring down the interior walls in condensation. We got through it ok, but it was not pleasant.
The Oliver would be our first choice if we wanted another replacement. We are looking seriously at getting one soon.

Glenn Baglo 05-13-2015 10:03 PM

You'll have the same condensation issue in any trailer, including Oliver, unless you stop breathing.

Donna D. 05-13-2015 10:14 PM

Condensation happens. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not happening. Mattresses and other fabrics LOVE moisture. Check out threads about mold. Those folks didn't see moisture running down their walls either... it went somewhere.

Glenn Baglo 05-13-2015 10:24 PM

New super-sealed and insulated homes require systems to remove moisture or suffer from mold.
My old house leaks like a sieve and we have no condensation problems. We just have a high heat bill.
No issue with pipes bursting in the winter either. :loltu

gaiusg 05-14-2015 12:22 AM

Alas - we were hoping better insulation would help. There was no problem with condensation in the warmer months with the Escape we had, even if our trailer was closed up (no AC).
So keeping the interior warm won't help?

Cathi 05-14-2015 12:37 AM

The trailer should never be closed up. Windows need to be cracked and the Maxx fan on to relieve the condensation situation. Cold air meets warm air. --- it's a problem. As Glenn mentioned, breathing is one of the big condensation problems.

Borrego Dave 05-14-2015 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gaiusg (Post 522112)
Alas - we were hoping better insulation would help. There was no problem with condensation in the warmer months with the Escape we had, even if our trailer was closed up (no AC).
So keeping the interior warm won't help?

Cold on the outside, heat on the inside = condensation :(

Ron Merritt 05-14-2015 05:20 AM

Yes, the Oliver is truly 4 season. Since I took delivery of mine in February, I missed most of the worst of the cold weather, but I still had plenty of days in the 30's and nights in the high teens/low twenties.

I stopped using the gas furnace right away. The cube heater easily heated the cabin to 80+ degrees. There certainly is less condensation with electric heat than the gas. When I ran the furnace, I'd open the bathroom vent to get alittle air moving. I'd get a couple drips on my head here and there when I went in to use the bathroom. Obviously that was coming from the inside surface of the thin plastic vent cover.

I certainly didn't see "buckets" of water running down the walls, or anything coming out of my weep holes underneath.

So far, my Ollie has been a tank. No problems to report or breakages.

Jim Bennett 05-14-2015 07:17 AM

We regularly camp in temperatures that drop a ways below freezing (otherwise we would not get much camping in around here), and have little issue with condensation. We use lots of warm bedding, and keep the temperature low in the trailer. We do keep a window and a vent cracked open a bit to disperse of moisture ladden air, and when we get up open them even more to help air things out a bit.

Whether you use the furnace, or an electrical heater should make no difference on condensation levels. All combustion air in a gas furnace is drawn from outside, and vented back out, with no moisture from it entering the trailer. The heated air is recycled from inside, just as it is with an electric heater. That said, the rare occasion we have 120V available, we prefer to use electric, as it is quieter, and saves on our propane usage.

Carol H 05-14-2015 08:32 AM

I was of the understanding that Escape does not imply their trailers even with the double pane windows and extra insulation to be a 4 Season trailer - only 3 season.

As others have said condensation is a real issue in most trailers if there is little venting.

honda03842 05-14-2015 08:35 AM

For the curious
 
Two people lose about 1.5-2 Liters of water a day, half through the skin and half by breathing. Exercise increases the lose.

Jim Bennett 05-14-2015 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Carol H (Post 522155)
I was of the understanding that Escape does not imply their trailers even with the double pane windows and extra insulation to be a 4 Season trailer - only 3 season.

True, and pretty much all I use it for.

Of course it is possible to make it work in winter, if you can have lots of heat and venting to drive the moisture out.


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