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Mitzi Agnew-Giles 10-31-2019 08:19 AM

How to Sell
I am cross posting this also in General Chat as well as Legal Matters for the increased readership. way to avoid being taken to the cleaners when selling your molded fiberglass? There are so many scams out there-:eek: including counterfeit if you sell for cash...I have been thinking about the WW2 Nazi campaign against England and they had quite a stash of counterfeit cash that matched the Bank of England's cash - it would've caused the fall of England but they couldn't get it into England in the later war years. I had thought about getting information and practice in how to recognize genuine cash like the banks do (what the heck is a watermark anyway?) and if the counterfeit is undetectable- well, read above about the Bank of England and WW2.

I have all original equipment even tho we removed some for our convenience- so I could return all that with a discount for cash.
DH was astounded to find out (from me) that cashiers checks can be washed and amounts and recipients forged.:eek:

Jim Bennett 10-31-2019 08:25 AM

I have removed the two repeated posts, as it will only create two conversations at the same time, on the same subject. It is also part of the Community Rules to not post duplicate threads.

Do not post the same discussion topic more than once or in several areas of the forum.

Carry on. :)

floyd 10-31-2019 08:58 AM

Cashier's checks should only be accepted during banking hours when you can call to confirm them by serial number and amount.
I think a little common sense will prevent the remote possibility of being taken by counterfeiters, but you can always do your transaction at your bank where they can check it and deposit the cash.

A watermark is a usually a paper manufacturers identification mark which is visible when held up to the light or in reflected light on a dark background.

As used on currency here is a link which explains ...

thrifty bill 10-31-2019 10:24 AM

Lots of forged cashier checks out there. Google cashier check scam. Typically its some obscure bank that is not local. Your bank thinks it is legit, then several days later they tell you its not.

Common sense goes a long way, scammers are not too sophisticated YET.

We did electronic bank to bank fund transfer on our Escape purchase. I took cash on the Trillium.

When I bought my truck, I went with the seller to his bank, handed over cash, he handed over title. I even had the bank notarize his signature.

"If the cashier’s check was written by a bank, it has to go through a clearinghouse, which is usually operated by the Federal Reserve Board. Even though this system has been largely automated since 2004, it can still take more than two weeks, according to the Better Business Bureau. That means there’s often a gap between when the money goes to the bank customer and the moment it can actually be verified. Cashier’s check scammers take advantage of this uncertainty by asking their victims to somehow return them some money. When the bank finally finds out the check is fake and takes the money from the customer’s account, the con artist will have disappeared, and the victim will be in the red."

JonRaw 10-31-2019 11:31 AM

I've seen other rv sales places ( that recommend using an escrow agent like you would with a house purchase.

I would think this could help lessen the possibility of fraud.

floyd 10-31-2019 12:37 PM

I have bought and sold well over a hundred vehicles over time and the only time I have been the victim of felony theft was from a licensed car dealer.
In that case he was caught and the theft was quickly rectified with full restitution.

Kevin A 10-31-2019 03:32 PM

Our two trailer sales and one antique VW pickup were all sold through PayPal. Seemed to work fine for us since the buyers were from a long ways away.

garyhall 11-10-2019 10:30 AM

Meet at the buyers bank. Get the cash or cashiers check from the person behind the counter. If the buyer doesn't have a bank convenient to you and they do not want to do an electronic/wire transfer to your bank have them open a new account at a bank near you. If they don't want to do this move on to the next buyer. Also my rule of thumb: If the buyer doesn't want to take the time or spend the money (to travel) to look at your product in person move on to the buyer that does.

Fred762 11-11-2019 10:59 PM

selling scams??
We sold our Casita last summer to a guy in E TN..we transferred the thing at a bank and received a cashier check drawn on that branch
I made 2 copies of a contract I had revised from a sale of a motorcycle last year. WE all 4 signed both copies, he got the Cassy + 1 contract copy, after a thoro exam of the trailer..and we got a copy of the contract and the cashier check, which we immediately deposited..easy peasy

Lisa in Michigan 11-12-2019 06:15 AM

When we bought our boler 17 in Winnipeg we paid cash but at the sellers bank right to the bank teller. Also signed all the papers at the bank.

jodimckenna56 02-01-2020 12:08 PM

When someone makes an offer well under what you’re asking as says for example 12k cash in hand? Is that regular jargon? Naive

John in Michigan 02-01-2020 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by jodimckenna56 (Post 766993)
When someone makes an offer well under what you’re asking as says for example 12k cash in hand? Is that regular jargon? Naive

Yes "cash in hand" or simply "cash" is regular jargon, and the majority of sellers demand it.

And sure the buyer can make an offer well under the asking price, but again, most FG trailer sellers demand cash, and if their trailer is priced right, they'll get the asking price or close to it.

jodimckenna56 02-01-2020 01:05 PM

Since I have your ear and if you wouldn’t mind, is this reasonable. I’ve listed my 17’ 2013 Casita in good to excellent condition at $16,000 and the offer was 12k that a good offer? I’m not in a big hurry but...donno.
No one to bounce these things off of.

Glenn Baglo 02-01-2020 02:09 PM

Who knows? I listed a Subaru wagon for $1,800 and got no interest. Listed it for $2,600 and sold it in a couple days for $2,400.

jodimckenna56 02-01-2020 02:28 PM

Good point. It’s psychological in that holding out creates anxiety, it’s ethical and moral in that are you being reasonable and fair, it’s philisophical in that will I take top dollar from a shister or sell to the right person for a bit less. Never was much of a seller. Thnx

thrifty bill 02-01-2020 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by jodimckenna56 (Post 767013)
Since I have your ear and if you wouldnít mind, is this reasonable. Iíve listed my 17í 2013 Casita in good to excellent condition at $16,000 and the offer was 12k that a good offer? Iím not in a big hurry but...donno.
No one to bounce these things off of.

I think your asking price is on the high side and the offer is too low. If the cash offer gets to $14k Iíd take it.

jodimckenna56 02-01-2020 06:23 PM

Thank you. I’m going to do just that. Staging begins and up the marketing, ie Craigslist etc. Haven’t gotten one reply from these classifieds. Has to sell or I’ll try and consign with an RV lot back in Texas. I’ve got 2 months so it should go....I’m rambling to my imaginary friend haha.

WizWid 02-01-2020 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by jodimckenna56 (Post 767047)
Havenít gotten one reply from these classifieds.....

Is yours the hoarder trailer with the sideways pictures?
If so, that could explain it.
Sorry to be brutal, but if I was looking I would skip yours.

Empty it out, take lots of photos, and the offers will start coming....

jodimckenna56 02-01-2020 07:20 PM

Omg...this is great insight. I’m thinking how cute it can be as a lil home but no...who I will sooo continue to empty and ‘stage’. Problem is I’m still living in it... but live out of my SUV and just sleep in it. Or should I take out the mattress and set up the big table? Probably, huh? Thank you for being brutal. It didn’t hurt too bad.

WizWid 02-01-2020 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by jodimckenna56 (Post 767059)
Omg...this is great insight. Iím thinking how cute it can be as a lil home but no...who I will sooo continue to empty and Ďstageí. Problem is Iím still living in it... but live out of my SUV and just sleep in it. Or should I take out the mattress and set up the big table? Probably, huh? Thank you for being brutal. It didnít hurt too bad.

This is just me. This is what I would do.
Wait for a sunny day.
Empty it all out - remove mattress - set up diner.
Take lots of pictures, with the blinds up/lights on to make it look big.
Edit all the photos to remove the superfluous stuff.
Clean bathrooms sell trailers.

When you have some good/clean photos, feel free to add a few "cute" ones to show how it could be used. No pictures of the owner though.

Good luck!

thrifty bill 02-01-2020 08:05 PM

+100 I have just looked at your pictures,

You want the trailer to look spotless and EMPTY. The closer it looks factory fresh (like the pictures on Casita web site) the better. Buyers are going to compare yours to a new one. You want them to think "wow this trailer looks just like a brand new one, but I can save some money!!"

You want the dinette to look like a dinette. Take a separate picture of it set up as a bed if you want and tell buyers that a custom full time mattress will be included if they want it.

Take the pictures one day, and then put your stuff back in.

Make sure the pictures are not sideways. Make sure the picture that shows up first in the thumbnail is perfect. The purpose of that picture is to get potential buyers to click on your ad to get more information.

Buyers have no imagination. Cluttered looks small, REALLY small. Empty looks BIG, really BIG. Cluttered WILL cost you $$$ in price. Great for buyers, not so hot for you the seller.

Make it a lot less personalized. The hanging down stuff will turn off some buyers. Every buyer you turn off is one less possible buyer.

In this age of the internet, pictures SELL. And GREAT pictures sell the best. And if there is a picture limit, use them all.

jodimckenna56 02-01-2020 09:42 PM

Got it. Thank you. I feel like I’m in RV selling school. Sure needed the advice. It is spotless and almost empty. Will redo the pics again and wait patiently for just the right deal and buyer.

Jon in AZ 02-01-2020 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by jodimckenna56 (Post 767071)
I feel like I’m in RV selling school.

Try interior pictures at night with all the lights on, no flash. For daytime photos you’ll get better results on a light overcast day. Bright sun washes out details and creates harsh shadows.

Agree about removing the mattress for a clean, factory original appearance. A few carefully selected accessories- a bright solid color throw pillow, a small vase on the table or counter- can enhance, but no clutter and don’t go overboard.

Include wide interior shots looking toward the front and back that show the whole layout. They can be tricky in a small trailer- you might have to hold the camera flat up against the walls. Dinettes should be set up. Watch out for distracting reflections.

Add close-ups of major features- fridge (open, empty, and clean), bathroom, kitchenette. If you want to show the bed, you can add a simple white comforter over the cushions and two pillows for scale.

Exterior shots should show all four sides- one from the front curb side corner and one from the back street side corner will suffice. It should look like it’s ready to tow- no cords, jacks, or hoses. If desired add a “camping” shot with the awning deployed and a chair or two. Keep it simple. Crop out as much background as possible.

Even good photos benefit from some enhancement with your photo editing software- cropping, exposure, contrast. Running them through the photo editor will also usually solve the orientation issues (sideways and upside down photos) afflicting this particular website.

In the ad, lead with exterior shots (front door side first), follow with overall interior shots next, and leave the close-up/detail shots for last.

You can learn a lot by looking at other ads. The time and effort you put into good photos will be returned in a quicker sale at a better price.

Best wishes!

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