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Penney H. & Mike E. 01-25-2020 04:26 PM

Escape Towing with a Rav4????
 
Has, or does, anyone tow an Escape 17A with a Toyota RAV4? We’ve towed with a Sienna and Highlander. RAV4 seems too small but looking at specs. it seems possible. Thank you for any replies.

iamjiwjr 01-25-2020 04:37 PM

This from the Escape site re the 17A:


"With a dry weight of only 2190lbs (Plan A) or 2540lbs (Plan B ), the Escape 17 has been designed specifically for mid-sized vehicles such as mini-vans, SUVs and mid-sized trucks with a V6 engine or a minimum towing capacity of 4000lbs."


The RAV4 max configuration towing capacity that can be purchased as I read it is 3590 lbs. And that isn't even counting car passsengers or cargo.


Thus I would think towing the Escape 17A with a RAV4 would be a bit too risky for me.

Glenn Baglo 01-25-2020 04:57 PM

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Depends.
I've been towing my Escape 17B with a 2008 RAV4 Sport V6 since 2008. It is rated 3,500 lbs. max tow and 350 lbs. tongue weight. I use a weight distribution hitch. My 17B weighs 3,200 lbs loaded to camp. Tongue weight is about 320/340 lbs.

In 2013 Toyota changed the model and it wasn't suitable for towing until they recently introduced another redesign.
Only issue I have with my RAV4 is the gas tank is rather small requiring more fuel stops.
There are several others using the same combo.
So, it depends on the RAV4 and its specs.

Justus C 01-25-2020 05:06 PM

There are at least two owners who have or at one point had a RAV4 towing an Escape 17B. Glenn is one and he is active on the forums, so I'm sure he will be along shortly. (Edit to add: Speak of the devil.)

Here is a spreadsheet showing what some members tow and what they tow it with: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...6oSPkw/pubhtml.

You've checked the specs so you know that the RAV4 Adventure trim is the only option for current model year. I have a hunch Glenn tows with one of the older RAV4s that had the V6 engine. Here is a relevant thread on the Escape forum: Toyota rav 4 v6 as tow vehicle - Escape Trailer Owners Community.

Penney H. & Mike E. 01-25-2020 05:46 PM

Thank you Justus, especially for link on Escape Forum, I did a search there but didn’t find that thread.

Penney H. & Mike E. 01-25-2020 05:48 PM

thank you Glenn for your experience and explaining the years they made redesigns. This isn’t an immediate thing, our Highlander was getting some (mouse caused) electrical work done and they gave us a 2019 RAV4 as a loaner, I was impressed by the leg room (important to me) on passenger side, long ago my mom had an early RAV, I could barely sit in or drive it! Good to know with the right model we could tow.

Glenn Baglo 01-25-2020 05:50 PM

Hope the seat is improved as well as the leg room. My wife and my daughter despise my RAV4 seats. I didn't spend an extra grand on leather and electric adjustment.
My bum does get sore too, but I have more tolerance.

I see your 17 is called "Turtle". Mine is "Toad".

Glenn Wolfe 01-26-2020 11:21 AM

Stopping power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Penney H. & Mike E. (Post 766374)
Has, or does, anyone tow an Escape 17A with a Toyota RAV4? We’ve towed with a Sienna and Highlander. RAV4 seems too small but looking at specs. it seems possible. Thank you for any replies.

For what it's worth, I pulled a Casita 17 with a RAV4 (6cyl). It pulled beautifully with a WD hitch and anti-sway. I moved up to an Escape 19 pulling with a Highlander with the same tow rating. In both cases it wasn't pulling I worried about, it was stopping power. Recently upgraded to Highlander w/ #5000 capacity. Not sure that equates to better stopping power but I feel much more comfortable with it.
Glenn

vin 01-26-2020 02:27 PM

If you coughed up the grand you would still be sitting on a bleacher seat, only covered with leather. Then your bum would hurt for two reasons. Standard Toyota comfort in all their vehicles.

Wayne Collins 01-26-2020 02:56 PM

Only a V6 Rav4 might do the job, But Toyota no longer has a V6 option in the Rav4.
I suggest the Highlander for more room, and 5000 LB tow capacity.

Glenn Baglo 01-26-2020 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Collins (Post 766456)
Only a V6 Rav4 might do the job, But Toyota no longer has a V6 option in the Rav4.
I suggest the Highlander for more room, and 5000 LB tow capacity.


The latest RAV4 is rated 3,500 / 350 lbs. and has a four cylinder engine versus six. Tow rating is the same. Number of cylinders is not. I don't think that's an issue.

Bobbie Mayer 01-26-2020 03:11 PM

Until recently I pulled my Escape 15 with a Subaru Forester (2400 lb tow rating, 5-speed manual) and it pulled fine. Downside was feeling a lot of bumps that the trailer hit. One of the reasons I finally upgraded was that it was more "work" to tow with a small car- but I towed it with the Forester for 3 years. I considered the new Rav4 Adventure for towing but wanted to go bigger. The 15 is a little lighter than the 17B (mine is a 15A) but I suspect a comparable experience.

btroxell 01-26-2020 08:02 PM

I had a 2010 17b and a 2009 RAV4 6 cylinder. I pulled the trailer about 5 years with the RAV4 and decided that it was time to upgrade to more towing power and bought a Tacoma. Short range was an issue but more importantly was the transmission; we could smell it getting hot on some of the mountain climbs and that is the primary place we go. I thought about adding a transmission cooler but went with a truck with tow package and that solved all my problems.

Ben

Glenn Baglo 01-26-2020 08:13 PM

How time flies. My 2008 is almost 12 years old. It came with tow prep package, which includes transmission fluid cooler, larger radiator and alternator.
I have low miles and I'm not planning on replacing it although my daughter is urging me to test drive her new Lexus RXL.
If I were to replace it, I'd get something with a 5,000 max tow weight, a larger gas tank and more comfortable seats, like maybe a Lexus.

BarbinBC 01-26-2020 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justus C (Post 766385)
There are at least two owners who have or at one point had a RAV4 towing an Escape 17B. Glenn is one and he is active on the forums, so I'm sure he will be along shortly. (Edit to add: Speak of the devil.)

Here is a spreadsheet showing what some members tow and what they tow it with: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...6oSPkw/pubhtml.

You've checked the specs so you know that the RAV4 Adventure trim is the only option for current model year. I have a hunch Glenn tows with one of the older RAV4s that had the V6 engine. Here is a relevant thread on the Escape forum: Toyota rav 4 v6 as tow vehicle - Escape Trailer Owners Community.

Love the spreadsheet. Was that done for the Escape forum or? I'd like to add to the listings.

snuffy2 06-07-2020 11:54 AM

question
 
Don't forget the most important question. Can you safely stop what you are towing in a panic stop with the TV you are planning to use?

Glenn Baglo 06-07-2020 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snuffy2 (Post 780813)
Don't forget the most important question. Can you safely stop what you are towing in a panic stop with the TV you are planning to use?


The trailer has its own brakes.

snuffy2 06-07-2020 12:12 PM

yes
 
And in a perfect world they always work!

Glenn Baglo 06-07-2020 02:15 PM

You're positive your tow vehicle brakes are always going to work, because they are big? :loltu


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