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11-15-2021, 09:28 AM
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Member
Name: William
Trailer: 13' Perris Pacer
California
Posts: 46
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New Record in California
Today California has set a new record for gasoline prices. According to AAA, the average per gallon cost here is $4.68, breaking the previous high set in 2012. If your plans include a visit to the Golden State, fill your tank before you cross the border.
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11-15-2021, 10:00 AM
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Commercial Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: Boler13/trillium4500/buro13
Ontario
Posts: 1,138
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mchalewj
Today California has set a new record for gasoline prices. According to AAA, the average per gallon cost here is $4.68, breaking the previous high set in 2012. If your plans include a visit to the Golden State, fill your tank before you cross the border.
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Ya but be careful prim casino which is on the Nevada Cali border was selling fuel higher than the Cali Costco looks like they are taking advantage of the high prices
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11-15-2021, 12:24 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jerrybob
Trailer: casita
Washington
Posts: 677
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"Doctor, my husband thinks he is a car. First he drinks a gallon of gasoline and then he runs 3 miles!"
"I understand your concern." said the doctor "With one gallon.....he should be able to go at least 10 miles!
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11-15-2021, 12:46 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Gordon
Trailer: Scamp
Idaho
Posts: 223
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Just paid $5.29 in Baker, ca. I gotta get out a here!
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11-15-2021, 01:11 PM
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Senior Member
Name: You can't call me Al
Trailer: SOLD: 1977 Scamp 13'
Massachusetts
Posts: 824
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This tends to be a welcoming, informative, vibrant forum.
Except when people intentionally continue to post obvious items intended to start a political fight.
Those people I can do without.
Report the post as overtly political and let the moderators deal with it is what I do and encourage you to also.
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11-15-2021, 01:37 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Kenneth
Trailer: Scamp
Wisconsin
Posts: 1,867
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USA gas map
Quote:
Originally Posted by mchalewj
Today California has set a new record for gasoline prices. According to AAA, the average per gallon cost here is $4.68, breaking the previous high set in 2012. If your plans include a visit to the Golden State, fill your tank before you cross the border.
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From Gas Buddy:
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11-15-2021, 07:31 PM
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Administrator
Trailer: Argosy
Posts: 2,256
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Folks - a number of explicitly political posts have been removed from this thread. Please remember while we share an interest in rving we do not all have the same political sensibilities AND that this board has rules about political topics.
Gas costs are indeed, rising.
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11-15-2021, 09:46 PM
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Senior Member
Name: bill
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19
The Mountains of North Carolina
Posts: 4,137
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Anyone who has driven to AK through Canada the last few years has paid even higher gas prices. Hasn't kept me from driving to AK in the past, and hopefully I will do it again. I think the highest I paid on the Alcan was a little under $8/gallon.
Most of the western USA is higher than what I see here in the SE. Still I will be heading out west this winter again.
Would I prefer cheaper gas? You bet.
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11-15-2021, 10:26 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Kenneth
Trailer: Scamp
Wisconsin
Posts: 1,867
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All ready stir crazy
Quote:
Originally Posted by mchalewj
Today California has set a new record for gasoline prices. According to AAA, the average per gallon cost here is $4.68, breaking the previous high set in 2012. If your plans include a visit to the Golden State, fill your tank before you cross the border.
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I hibernate winters in Wisconsin. We had out first plow-able snow this past weekend and I'm already placing amazon orders for next year. (If we can still afford to travel.)
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11-16-2021, 07:23 AM
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Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 79
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As a friend is fond of saying. It is, what it is! If one is concerned about the price of traveling or camping, they should sell the camper and stay home. Concerned about getting to work? A whole different thing. I feel for those. JMHO
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11-16-2021, 08:18 AM
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Moderator
Name: RogerDat
Trailer: 2010 Scamp 16
Michigan
Posts: 3,744
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy J
As a friend is fond of saying. It is, what it is! If one is concerned about the price of traveling or camping, they should sell the camper and stay home. Concerned about getting to work? A whole different thing. I feel for those. JMHO
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I'm still working from home most of the time. I like not losing the commute time out of my day for sure. I'm not going to like what that commute is going to do to the household budget when and if that regular commute starts up again.
I recall this isn't the first time gas prices have been where they are now. I seem to recall here in Mich. they flirted with $4 a gallon a couple of times in the past.
I think some stations may well be price gouging but there also may be a behind the scene scramble for supply that has stations bidding up the prices they are paying to wholesaler. I would think that scramble might be worse in areas with huge commuter population and 10 lane highways to handle the traffic. People moved out a long way from the city to find affordable housing. Now that long commute is getting much more expensive and that has to be rough.
As economy is coming back so fast I'm not surprised at higher fuel prices. The demand by auto and airlines for fuel rose and is continuing to rise rapidly. Trucks are moving goods, people are traveling, driving back to the office or retail or plant for work. Price increase happens at the end of every economic downturn I've ever seen once things start to recover.
It isn't that I trust fuel companies. They do charge all the traffic will bear in terms of price. Which happens to be more when demand increases. I'm still trying to wrap my head around $8 for a can of beer at a concert. I do hope the prices slide down a bit, which I expect they will when people drive less due to the cost demand drops and so do prices. That can of beer is only $8 because people will pay that much. If it didn't sell for $8 then I expect the price would drop until it does sell. But no lower than is required to encourage consumption.
Small light, and easy on gas mileage FGRV looking smarter by the day. Do hope fuel prices drop by next camping season. I don't expect less than $3.25 but stability makes planning a trip budget easier. I was once on a trip to Colorado (1,200 miles plus each way) in a large motor home with about 6 mpg when war broke out in the middle east and each tank was costing more to fill. More than doubled my fuel cost. Blew the heck out of that trip budget.
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11-16-2021, 10:46 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,317
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What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
- Bertolt Brecht
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11-16-2021, 11:39 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jerrybob
Trailer: casita
Washington
Posts: 677
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I love camping and retirement.....nothing like sitting in a $40 campsite.... ....looking at my new $30K Casita.......next to my new $75K Ram truck which costs $100 to fill up.........sipping an $8 beer.....while feeding my dog primium dog food at $48 a bag......life is good! Oops....gotta go.....they just delivered an Amazon package to the house......sure hope it's my new $250 work boots from LLBean.
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11-17-2021, 04:50 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 13 ft Scamp 1999
Posts: 102
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I loved camping with my family for 30 years sleeping on the ground in a tent & traveling in a car & later to be replaced by our first of 3 Dodge Caravans, the first came without AC & a stick shift on the floor. I loved camping in my $4700 1999 Scamp with $2.12 fuel at a $20.50 campground driving my $4000 2004 Ford Explorer when you didn't need a site reservation 6 months in advance. We now travel in a 2008 Casita STD towed by a 2008 Toyota Highlander. We still cook outside using our original 50 year old Coleman stove. The truth is camping has become more expensive, more difficult (admittedly somewhat my fault) & less fun do to it's increase in popularity. We still enjoy occasional camping doing everything we can to avoid weekends, but in my opinion it's not the same as it used to be!
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11-17-2021, 06:40 AM
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Senior Member
Name: JD
Trailer: Scamp 16 Modified (BIGLY)
Florida
Posts: 2,445
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Having travelled a little in California away from the coast I can see why the fuel cost is so high. Of course the population along the coast and in the big cities puts a lot of demand on fuel and the prices there reflect it, but in the valley you can go a ways before you get to THE GAS STATION for the area.
There is not a lot of competition and there can be a lot of miles between what is there as well. We made it a policy to fill up when we reached 1/2 tank in out Touareg towing the 16' Scamp when out west.
The gas stations are spread out quite a bit and of course all of the fuel is trucked in and there is a shortage of qualified fuel truck drivers.
It is a seller's market in the trucking cost, the fuel distributors cost and the retailers cost with little competition to drive the cost down.
Of course the fuel prices are high!
Many of the gas stations are located in places where they were and are the only commercial stores for a very long way and have been so for 70 years! Some fairly famous for their location from waaaay back!.
No competition means high prices and profits and the owners will fight to keep it that way.
It's big sky country because there is nothing else between you and the horizon!
I have a spreadsheet of our trip fuel costs and the high was in Greenfield CA, followed by Barstow. At each site there was the ONE fuel choice to fill up from. ANd if more than one there was a choice of stations with exactly the same price.
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11-17-2021, 07:07 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Shelby
Trailer: Casita SD
Tennessee
Posts: 1,091
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Check out the cost of housing in California. Stuff's expensive out there, not everyone can afford it.
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11-17-2021, 07:22 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Greg
Trailer: 2008 Casita 17' SD
Washington
Posts: 1,997
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My mother lived for many years in Walnut Creek, CA. She passed away several years ago. If there is one "upside" to this story is that there is absolutely nothing I need in California anymore. You'll never see me ever set foot in that state ever again. Nothing there that I will miss. I also find it ironic that CA, (and NJ,) are the only states that are experiencing a decline in population. Lots of people bugging out of those states. They can't afford to live there anymore.
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11-17-2021, 07:24 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,926
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The latest concerning trend in my area has been short supply. My usual station has twice been out of regular unleaded within the last two weeks. Other sellers in the area seem to be having the same issue. First time I tried three stations before finding one with gas. Second time I was headed out of town, so bought gas down the road. Both times were resolved by the next day.
Once could be a fluke- mishap with a supply truck or something like that. Twice got my attention. Driver shortage, maybe?
Be wary if you’re headed off the beaten path. Top off when you can.
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11-17-2021, 08:58 AM
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Senior Member
Name: P
Trailer: Casita
Washington
Posts: 343
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jerrybob
I love camping and retirement.....nothing like sitting in a $40 campsite.... ....looking at my new $30K Casita.......next to my new $75K Ram truck which costs $100 to fill up.........sipping an $8 beer.....while feeding my dog primium dog food at $48 a bag......life is good! Oops....gotta go.....they just delivered an Amazon package to the house......sure hope it's my new $250 work boots from LLBean.
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Those are pretty cheap boots. Go buy a pair of good calked boots for a comparison.
In the 1990s, I think gas was $5 a gallon in the way north part of CA because it was too stormy and a barge couldn't get into harbor. Apparently the gas was barged to Eureka and unloaded then trucked to the isolated place where I lived. It had to come around from the Yreka side. Yreka should not be confused with Eureka. I lived down the Klamath River from Yreka at the time. It was a whole different world and probably still is.
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11-17-2021, 11:02 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jerrybob
Trailer: casita
Washington
Posts: 677
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slowpat
Those are pretty cheap boots. Go buy a pair of good calked boots for a comparison.
In the 1990s, I think gas was $5 a gallon in the way north part of CA because it was too stormy and a barge couldn't get into harbor. Apparently the gas was barged to Eureka and unloaded then trucked to the isolated place where I lived. It had to come around from the Yreka side. Yreka should not be confused with Eureka. I lived down the Klamath River from Yreka at the time. It was a whole different world and probably still is.
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Yea.....it is a different world. We are originally from Calif.....nice place to be from. We still have kids and grandkids in So. Calif.......we go down once a year.....can handle only about three days.....then I got to get out of there. Love the kids and grandkids.....hate the crowds...traffic etc.....
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