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07-06-2011, 04:07 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Christina
Trailer: 85 U-Haul
Colorado
Posts: 6
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Want to replace the Ice Box in my U-haul with fridge
Hi all,
We are newby owners of an 85 U-haul 13 ct and we would like to replace the ice box with a dorm fridge. I am very new to doing these things myself but am a quick learner and would like advice to get me started! Has anyone with a U-haul replaced the ice box with a fridge? Can we get by with a dorm fridge without having to do electrical upgrades? Will we need an inverter? Any help that anyone can provide would be very much appreciated!!!!
Thanks,
Christina
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07-06-2011, 06:19 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
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Hi Christina, I see this is your first post... so, welcome to FiberglassRV. I'm not a U-Haul owner, nor have I replaced the frig in my trailer with a dorm frig... I just wanted to welcome you!
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Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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07-06-2011, 06:25 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 16 ft U-Haul VT
Posts: 2,867
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Christina,
Welcome to the Uhaul family! We have the larger Uhaul. I cannot help you with specifics, but I can tell you that we have one of the larger dorm refrigerators in our Uhaul. It was installed when we got it. We also do not run off battery, so that is not an issue. Others will have to provide the specifics.
CindyL
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07-06-2011, 06:36 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,710
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Christina
Hi all,
We are newby owners of an 85 U-haul 13 ct and we would like to replace the ice box with a dorm fridge. I am very new to doing these things myself but am a quick learner and would like advice to get me started! Has anyone with a U-haul replaced the ice box with a fridge? Can we get by with a dorm fridge without having to do electrical upgrades? Will we need an inverter? Any help that anyone can provide would be very much appreciated!!!!
Thanks,
Christina
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There is a similar thread going on here
http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...12v-47153.html
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07-06-2011, 07:39 PM
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Moderator
Trailer: U-Haul 1985
Posts: 3,436
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One of the first things that I had to do was upgrade my electrical. My original 15amp circuit breaker (which was also the only 110 plug in the camper) kept tripping whenever I tried to run a small heater on it. This got me concerned about the rest of the 25year old wiring. So I had it all replaced, upgraded the service size, and installed extra duplex plugs. LOVE it, and feel much safer.
So overloading your electrical might be one concern about a dorm fridge - check your system's limits.
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07-07-2011, 07:16 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 16 ft Scamp Side Dinette
Posts: 310
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Hi Christina,
I put a dorm frig in our 13' Scamp due to our dislike of the built-in cooler and the great price of a dorm frig ($20 scratch & dent). I also re-wired the camper, but not because of adding a frig. I don't remember the power requirements, but I think all circuits were 15 amp; and although I had a 3 or 4 circuit box I think I only used 2 circuits in the camper and the frig and micro were able to be on the same circuit. I only used the frig with 110 volt AC, not 12 volt DC. Had to widen the cabinet cutout a little and fill the gap all around with trim. Good luck -- we were delighted with the change!
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07-07-2011, 10:33 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Christina
Trailer: 85 U-Haul
Colorado
Posts: 6
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Thank you!!!
Thank you all for the warm welcome! I am very excited to be a new owner and to be apart of this very fabulous group!!! Thank you for the tips and the link to the other thread going on. It all helps ALOT! I think that it should be a realatively easy project to do- of course I say that now and we all know once you start, it 5 trips trips for supplies and a week longer than anticipated!
Thanks again!
~Christina
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07-07-2011, 10:47 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Christina
Trailer: 85 U-Haul
Colorado
Posts: 6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pam Garlow
One of the first things that I had to do was upgrade my electrical. My original 15amp circuit breaker (which was also the only 110 plug in the camper) kept tripping whenever I tried to run a small heater on it. This got me concerned about the rest of the 25year old wiring. So I had it all replaced, upgraded the service size, and installed extra duplex plugs. LOVE it, and feel much safer.
So overloading your electrical might be one concern about a dorm fridge - check your system's limits.
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Hi Pam!
Did you have someone do the upgrade work for you? If so, do you mind me asking if you got a couple of quotes on the work and the ballpark range of what those quotes were?
Thanks!!!
~Chrisitna
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07-07-2011, 02:47 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: U-Haul VT16
Posts: 987
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Welcome to the Forum
Having seen what the wiring looked like in my own U-Haul VT I would upgrade the wiring before plugging anything that uses any significant power. ( heaters, microwaves, toasters, hairdryers. ). Those stock circuit breakers are scary, and all the insulation was cracked in the places it wasn't duct taped together.
Regards,
Matt
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07-07-2011, 06:31 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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One upside of the dorm fridges is they draw relatively low levels of AC, I believe less than 4 amps. When they're plugged in the percentage of time that the compressor runs is low, listen to your home fridge.
Any trailer AC circuit should be able to handle one.
Like many of the people on the site we have upgraded our AC to 10 seperate outlets, mostly for convenience because we don't have any heavy draw items, no microwave or Air Conditioner, at least yet.
Norm
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07-07-2011, 07:40 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Hunter 1 / Chevy Blazer
Posts: 115
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New Dorm Fridge
Christina,
Welcome, I replaced the ice box in my Hunter with a dorm fridge. I looked around and found one at Best Buy that had a seperate freezer door. I took out a drawer and put it in. I did add an extra vent to the outside of the trailer. I pick up a vent cover with the screen in it at Home Depot, cut a hole smaller that the vent and sealed and installed it. No electrial problems.
Linda
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07-07-2011, 08:22 PM
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Moderator
Trailer: U-Haul 1985
Posts: 3,436
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Christina
Hi Pam!
Did you have someone do the upgrade work for you? If so, do you mind me asking if you got a couple of quotes on the work and the ballpark range of what those quotes were?
Thanks!!!
~Chrisitna
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Christina, I had the work done by a local camping place. Total cost was in the range of $550 I believe. I had all new 110 wiring installed, plus 4 extra 110v plugs installed in the trailer, and a GFI 30amp panel with 1 main and 2 or 3 circuits in it (cannot remember for sure how many). I also had 2 100V lights wired in, and a 12v light. (whew, quite a bit!) I had a 30 amp circuit box installed because it wasn't really that much more than a 15amp and I figured it would be more than sufficient if I decided to put in AC. I did not do much price shopping, because the local shop came highly recommended by a friend.
Of course you could do the work yourself for much less I'm sure, but I know nothing about trailer wiring, converters, inverters, tieing in batteries, 12volt wiring, etc. So I figured I would let the professionals handle it.
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07-10-2011, 09:15 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Christina
Trailer: 85 U-Haul
Colorado
Posts: 6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pam Garlow
Christina, I had the work done by a local camping place. Total cost was in the range of $550 I believe. I had all new 110 wiring installed, plus 4 extra 110v plugs installed in the trailer, and a GFI 30amp panel with 1 main and 2 or 3 circuits in it (cannot remember for sure how many). I also had 2 100V lights wired in, and a 12v light. (whew, quite a bit!) I had a 30 amp circuit box installed because it wasn't really that much more than a 15amp and I figured it would be more than sufficient if I decided to put in AC. I did not do much price shopping, because the local shop came highly recommended by a friend.
Of course you could do the work yourself for much less I'm sure, but I know nothing about trailer wiring, converters, inverters, tieing in batteries, 12volt wiring, etc. So I figured I would let the professionals handle it.
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Hi Pam,
Thanks! From the sounds of what most are saying, it looks like it would be a good idea to upgrade and you having given me a good idea where to start! I wish i knew more about electrical but I think that is one area best left to the professionals!
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08-03-2011, 08:08 AM
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Member
Trailer: U-Haul 13 ft ('Lil Eggo')
Posts: 49
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Dorm Fridge in Uhaul
Hi Christina - Welcome!
I haven't been on this forum for a while, but I have done just about everything that can be done to our Uhaul - including fridge, converter replacement, new plugs, air conditioner, new curtains, new cushion covers, etc.
We bought a fridge from Lowes, ($80) almost exactly the same size as the icebox. I think I had to trim less than 1/4" off on one side! I used some plastic trim (the kind they have to go around the outside edges of plastic shower surrounds - also Lowes) around the edge of the hole, and just "pushed" the fridge into the opening - its a very tight fit... I took the cabinet "insert" out temporarily (beside the icebox) for extra access room to get behind and under the fridge. I had to put a couple of 2x4 blocks to the floor underneath the fridge for it to sit on, as it sits up off the floor inside the cabinet a little. Just have to be careful not to hit the propane line going to the stove, etc. As for the electrical - I actually just ran another wire off of the junction box before it goes to the battery. You can take overhead cabinet inserts out and actually run the new wire from the brown "plug", inside and behind the cabinet inserts, down behind the stove, to under the storage compartment (under the bunk bed to the right of the ice box). I then just bolted a plastic electrical box underneath that storage box, wired a outlet into it, and plugged the fridge into it. This also gave me an extra electrical plug underneath the storage compartment, which I use to plug in a power strip for other things. The only downside is that you have to have electrical power (or a generator) to run the fridge - you can't run it off the battery or propane. I've had this for over 3 years and absolutely no problems. We mostly camp where there is power anyway, but if we don't, we just carry a regular cooler. If I can get time in the next couple of days, I'll take some pics and post them, along with the brand of fridge, etc. It really is NOT hard to do at all, just takes a little time... I've had the fridge, a small microwave, lights, laptop, etc. run off the same circuit and never had it trip...
You've definitely come to the right place for information - I learned a whole lot about my little camper from the people on this site...
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08-03-2011, 10:54 AM
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#15
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Senior Member
Name: James
Trailer: Uhaul CT-13
Ohio
Posts: 360
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08-03-2011, 12:05 PM
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#16
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Same Installation
We had virtually the same installation except ours was black. We originally started with a big bungee to keep it closed but migrated to a different solution.
To keep the door closed we drilled a screw into the top of the door on the opening side. Above it we drilled a hole for an hook. We put a large O-ring in the hook and then closed the top of the hook with pliers, capturing one end of the o-ring.
Before driving we just take the other end of the O-ring and hook it over the door's screw.
You can just makeout the stainless screw in the right corner of the door.
Norm
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10-19-2014, 10:03 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Tony
Trailer: Scamp - "The Haunted Mansion" (13') and TBD (16')
Colorado
Posts: 290
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When you put the dorm fridge in, what kind of venting is there? Do you have an outside vent/access panel?
Our 13' Scamp is completely gutted and we are thinking of putting in a L-shaped kitchen across the front and putting the fridge there. If we do, there are no vents in the front of the trailer and we would be reluctant to put one in there... but at the same time, we don't want the fridge to get too hot while it's running.
Thanks in advance for your advice!
- Tony
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10-19-2014, 11:58 PM
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Senior Member
Name: David
Trailer: Former 13’Scamp, now Snoozy
Arizona
Posts: 2,316
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One does not vent their home refrigerator to the outside, nor do you need to for a dorm fridge or a 12 volt only Danfoss style compressor refrigerator like Novakool, Truckfridge, etc. You usually just have to have an inch below, at the back, and the top in order for inside air flow to cool the coils. No flame is used with these refrigerators as they all use coolant like 134a and a compressor to circulate the coolant. My last 2 trailers were changed out to Danfoss style refrigerators ($700.00 ballpark) and love them. You do not have to worry about being level, wind blowing out the flame, slow cooling time (hours to get to desired cooling range), nor having to worry about having to have the refrigerator off while traveling. I have been using permanently mounted solar to keep the battery topped off, and a 12 volt wire from the tow vehicle if traveling at night.
Dave & Paula
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10-20-2014, 06:29 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Tony
Trailer: Scamp - "The Haunted Mansion" (13') and TBD (16')
Colorado
Posts: 290
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Thanks David! You are a fount of information!!! Building out this trailer is going to be easy thanks to all the advice you've given us!
- Tony
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10-20-2014, 06:32 AM
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#20
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Senior Member
Name: Tim
Trailer: '88 Scamp 16, layout 4
North Florida
Posts: 1,547
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I have (temporarily) installed a "dorm fridge" in my Scamp, pending a new 12V compresser fridge maybe next year. I put it in the stock location so have the stock vents on the outside. Yes, normally these do not require venting, because it is assumed they have space under, over, and on the sides to vent. They do give off a certain amount of heat, that is what they do after all. Remove it from inside the box and expend it outside. I have it sealed off from the inside of the trailer and even with the outside venting when I put my hand on the fiberglass counter above the fridge (heat rises) it is very warm. I was very surprised to note this and do not think it is enough to worry about, but I would recommend leaving room for air flow into the trailer if no external venting is provided.
By the way, I went to a lot of trouble to make an aluminum plate that mounted to the top off-side hinge bracket holes and a pin to keep the door closed for travel. I worked so hard mounting and trimming the fridge I hate to swap it out for a new 12V one. But once I get my solar system in the new refridgerator is next.
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